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What made you think that strawman? Half true.

 

Try and rise above this petty personalisation. Its crude and insulting. Oh yeah, its stupid too.

 

Bigthumb - "Equality being the lowest denominator".

It obvious where you're going with this.

Perhaps some people are better than others.

Perhaps your vote should count double.

Perhaps the great unwashed 'pleb's' shouldn't get a vote at all.

 

Got another Tory word in there can you see the common thread?

 

Actually what I was saying was the tax clearly demonstrated Labours idea of equality was to bring everyone down to the lowest level rather than allowing those with aspiration and ability to rise to the top one. Perhaps if you didn't have such a big chip on your shoulder it wouldn't block your vision from seeing that.

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I sometimes wonder if people like this stand around a brazier at weekends in donkey jackets to relax and remenisce about how good it was(nt).

 

Meanwhile the rest of the world speeds on ahead leaving Sheffield far behind in the dust.

 

 

Billabong shorts and Birkenstocks around the BBQ this evening mate. Some of us move with the times!

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Billabong shorts and Birkenstocks around the BBQ this evening mate. Some of us move with the times!

 

I'm not convinced that you have fully grasped the concept of moving with the times.

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Billabong shorts and Birkenstocks around the BBQ this evening mate. Some of us move with the times!

 

It was a rather pleasant evening wasn't it. Sadly we managed to cremate the fish on the fires at the meeting tonight...:(

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I'm not convinced that you have fully grasped the concept of moving with the times.

 

Should I have charged my wife and kids £100 each for a burger?

 

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It was a rather pleasant evening wasn't it. Sadly we managed to cremate the fish on the fires at the meeting tonight...:(

 

Your lodge needs a new chef by the sounds of it!

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Should I have charged my wife and kids £100 each for a burger?

 

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Your lodge needs a new chef by the sounds of it!

 

Lodge.....?

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It's all about growth with the Tories. All about growing the debt.

 

The government debt has doubled and they want households to follow suit:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/autumn-statement/11272773/The-Chancellor-is-banking-on-another-house-price-bubble.html

 

By the end of this government our national debt will be near-tripled and households won't just be in it up to their necks, they'll be drowning.

 

And Osborne is about to give the go signal to the banks to take the public, the chumps, to the cleaners. No tougher regulation for the banks, they're off the hook.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/banksandfinance/11656254/George-Osborne-weve-hit-banks-hard-enough.html

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It's all about growth with the Tories. All about growing the debt.

 

The government debt has doubled and they want households to follow suit:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/autumn-statement/11272773/The-Chancellor-is-banking-on-another-house-price-bubble.html

 

By the end of this government our national debt will be near-tripled and households won't just be in it up to their necks, they'll be drowning.

 

And Osborne is about to give the go signal to the banks to take the public, the chumps, to the cleaners. No tougher regulation for the banks, they're off the hook.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/banksandfinance/11656254/George-Osborne-weve-hit-banks-hard-enough.html

 

The debt is due to the previous lot fouling up the economy and employing too many in the public sector and selling off the gold reserves. Without the shackles of the Libs, the Tories should be able to address the problem a little better.

It's not good the situation, but the tories are working on it. "There's no money left". Turning round a supertanker, that nearly foundered takes a long time and needs to be carefully and handled well. It should happen.

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It's nice to hear Cameron talking about corruption on the news this morning. His heritage, lifestyle and social circle is built on it.

 

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Lodge.....?

 

Square and Compasses and all that?

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The debt is due to the previous lot fouling up the economy and employing too many in the public sector and selling off the gold reserves. Without the shackles of the Libs, the Tories should be able to address the problem a little better.

It's not good the situation, but the tories are working on it. "There's no money left". Turning round a supertanker, that nearly foundered takes a long time and needs to be carefully and handled well. It should happen.

 

All the reasons you state are wrong. Just soundbites with no substance.

 

Let's start with the gold reserves. Selling them cost us less than what Osborne lost us by letting off Vodafone over unpaid tax, and seeing as we are going back in time a fraction of what Norman Lamont cost us in a single disastrous day in 1992.

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All the reasons you state are wrong. Just soundbites with no substance.

 

Let's start with the gold reserves. Selling them cost us less than what Osborne lost us by letting off Vodafone over unpaid tax, and seeing as we are going back in time a fraction of what Norman Lamont cost us in a single disastrous day in 1992.

 

Vodaphone never had a £6bn tax bill, if that's what you're referring to.

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All the reasons you state are wrong. Just soundbites with no substance.

 

Let's start with the gold reserves. Selling them cost us less than what Osborne lost us by letting off Vodafone over unpaid tax, and seeing as we are going back in time a fraction of what Norman Lamont cost us in a single disastrous day in 1992.

 

Also, the enlarged debt is due mainly to the global financial crisis, which (as anybody who has read the history of those times will know) might well have been even worse without a couple of decisive actions that Brown took. Thank God the Tories weren't in power at that time!

 

As Peter Hitchens says, "the Tory record on the economy is dreadful ... to vote Tory because you think the economy is safe in their hands is actually daft". If you trawl through the comments on that blog, you'll also find him saying that "Mr Balls is a far better economist than Mr Osborne, and can justly claim to have saved the country from entering the Euro against such advocates as Michael Heseltine, Mr Cameron's strongest single influence". [Cue ad hominem attacks on Hitchens.]

 

I repeat that the Attlee government turned the deficit into a surplus within three years of the end of WWII, largely by taxing the people who could afford it and spending the proceeds judiciously (the top rate of income tax was well over 90% then, and stayed above 80% right up to 1979, and the roof didn't cave in, in fact the economy continued to grow steadily). The global financial crisis was bad enough, but hardly on the scale of WWII. Why are we still running a deficit 7 or 8 years on, when the Tories made removing it a central plank of their policy?

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