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2 hours ago, banjodeano said:

but i think we could see from what was happening in Italy a few weeks ago to know that the option of letting it run its course was not the right way to deal with it, we knew that weeks ago

We? Not really as Italy has shown to be a bit unique in that situation, more elderly, more sociable and more that attend gatherings etc.

 

13 minutes ago, Mister Gee said:

They’ve discovered something called socialism, they’ll soon be calling each other Comrade and singing "The Internationale".

If that is what you think then you don't know what socialism is or represents.

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10 minutes ago, apelike said:

We? Not really as Italy has shown to be a bit unique in that situation, more elderly, more sociable and more that attend gatherings etc.

 

If that is what you think then you don't know what socialism is or represents.

I was born in an NHS hospital, grew up on a council estate and went to a comprehensive school. I know why I’m a socialist.

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1 minute ago, Mister Gee said:

I was born in an NHS hospital, grew up on a council estate and went to a comprehensive school. I know why I’m a socialist.

Sounds more like herd mentality, working class poor with parents that voted Labour. I didn't question why you are a socialist though. I know many who class themselves as socialist that aren't and see many Labour MP's and people of authority that class themselves as socialist that also aren't.

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21 minutes ago, apelike said:

Sounds more like herd mentality, working class poor with parents that voted Labour. I didn't question why you are a socialist though. I know many who class themselves as socialist that aren't and see many Labour MP's and people of authority that class themselves as socialist that also aren't.

what are you waffling on about?

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1 minute ago, banjodeano said:

what are you waffling on about?

I was thinking the same banjo.

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1 hour ago, apelike said:

Sounds more like herd mentality, working class poor with parents that voted Labour. I didn't question why you are a socialist though. I know many who class themselves as socialist that aren't and see many Labour MP's and people of authority that class themselves as socialist that also aren't.

Socialism is an ideology that can appeal to anyone from anywhere, it's not necessarily just about class. Nor is Capitalism. 

 

 

 

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8 minutes ago, Anna B said:

Socialism is an ideology that can appeal to anyone from anywhere, it's not necessarily just about class. Nor is Capitalism. 

 

 

 

You know Anna, I actually think the government is doing a good job..

But I can't help thinking if it was JC in power doing this, he would be slagged of by all the media.. 

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1 hour ago, Padders said:

You know Anna, I actually think the government is doing a good job..

But I can't help thinking if it was JC in power doing this, he would be slagged of by all the media.. 

Oh wouldn't he just padders, it's amazing just how two faced the media can be and get away with it..

 

The major point for me though, is that we would have been in a much better position to withstand this crisis if we hadn't had 10 years of unnecessary Tory cuts and austerity beforehand. I think only time will tell if Boris has done a good job. I think everybody is trying to be positive at the moment, working together, and giving him the benefit of the doubt etc. So in that at least, he's having quite an easy ride. - I wonder if it would it have been the same for Corbyn?

 

However, although he's been throwing a lot of money at the problem. he still hasn't managed to do very much to help the 5 million self- employed and the low waged, in spite of being begged every five minutes to give them some support.  He hasn't implemented the 'testing, testing, testing' which has been seen as vital in other countries. (If we don't have the right data how do we know what we're up against?) And the fact that key workers on the front line still haven't got the necessary protective gear and equipment to do the job is nothing short of a disgrace really.

 

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3 hours ago, banjodeano said:

what are you waffling on about?

I’ve been thinking that for a few years now.

 

If anyone has the answer, please put it on a postcard to:

 

Roger Mofatt

Radio Hallam

Sheffield

S1 1DJ

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16 hours ago, apelike said:

Sounds more like herd mentality, working class poor with parents that voted Labour. I didn't question why you are a socialist though. I know many who class themselves as socialist that aren't and see many Labour MP's and people of authority that class themselves as socialist that also aren't.

Speaking of the herd, Dominic Cummings thoughts on how Coronavirus might be stemmed through the herd mentality thesis are splashed all over the Sunday Times this morning:

 

"herd immunity, protect the economy,  and if that means some pensioners die, too bad".

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16 hours ago, banjodeano said:

what are you waffling on about?

Read the post again and maybe you will understand it.

 

16 hours ago, Mister Gee said:

I was thinking the same banjo.

Same as above!

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15 hours ago, Anna B said:

Socialism is an ideology that can appeal to anyone from anywhere, it's not necessarily just about class. Nor is Capitalism. 

I think you have also misread the post. I didn't state it was about class (as in economic or social group) but how people class themselves as to what they believe in and as you say an ideology. It's often said that people in the North who vote Labour only do so because their parents do or did and not for any other reason and that is what I was getting at.

 

 

 

 

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