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On ‎04‎/‎12‎/‎2019 at 05:28, Michael_W said:

I'll go Johnson 20 years, Corbyn 50 years, Comrades policies and ideology belong in the 1970s, I wouldn't worry too much though Greta and Co reckon the planet only has about 10 years left, ah well I suppose we will should all suck it and accept a portion of the blame whatever happens !

Whereas Mr Johnson's policies and ideology belong in the 1850s.

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I guess most people saw the video of Boris and other world leaders and Princess Anne taking the micky out of Trump.

 

I begger belief not that Boris told barefaced lies about an incident that he was present at but that no-one seems to be bothered about it and many don't see the link to anything else he says.

 

It is a little reassuring that no-one on here defends this type of behaviour.  Its a given that Boris is a liar.

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17 hours ago, hobinfoot said:

I remember someone saying it will take 20/30 years for the effects of the crash to end.

If Johnson gets in again, it will never end.

 

The crash didn't happen by chance, It was the result of the deliberate policies  of the Conservatives /Neoliberals who will  continue with all the things that led to the crash in the first place.

 

It goes back 40 years to Margaret Thatcher.(Thatcherism.) She deregulated the banks and made it an unregulated free-for-all, casino economics. She closed down our manufacturing base and cut off the legs of our Unions so no-one could stop her, creating an underclass of long term unemployed, and poorly paid jobs. She sold off all our assetts so we lost control of our infrastructure.  She invested the money in the banks (that went well didn't it,) and helped create the Mega Corporations and Tax Havens for the rich. She systematically began dismantling the hard won welfare state thereby removing the safety net that the poor and the disabled needed to live. Investment in infrastructure, training and society, the 'trickle down' effect, was replaced by shareholder dividends and tax cuts for the rich.  And so it goes on . . . . 

 

Blairite Labour did nothing to amend any of it, and continued the trend of feathering their own nests and hobnobbing with the rich and famous, because 'We're all middle class now...' 

 

Neoliberalism - a far greater threat to society than anything Jeremy Corbyn could come up with, yet most people don't even know what it means or that it's happening, let alone understand it, because they are fed a diet of propaganda and lies to confuse and subvert. Own the media and you can tell them anything. . . .Fake news isn't new, it's just that some of us are now more aware of it.

 

Basically just think 'winner takes all' and remember there is only one winner, and it's not us.

United Kingdom[edit]

Part of the politics series on
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During her tenure as Prime Minister, Margaret Thatcher oversaw a number of neoliberal reforms, including tax reduction, exchange rate reform, deregulation, and privatisation.[122] These reforms were continued and supported by her successor John Major. Although opposed by the Labour Party, the reforms were largely left unaltered when Labour returned to power in 1997. Indeed, the Labour government under Tony Blair even implemented a variety of privatisation and deregulation measures that had not been completed under prior governments.[123]

The Adam Smith Institute, a United Kingdom-based free market think tank and lobbying group formed in 1977 which was a major driver of the aforementioned neoliberal reforms,[124] officially changed its libertarian label to neoliberal in October 2016.[125]

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoliberalism

Edited by Anna B

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51 minutes ago, Anna B said:

If Johnson gets in again, it will never end.

 

The crash didn't happen by chance, It was the result of the deliberate policies  of the Conservatives /Neoliberals who will  continue with all the things that led to the crash in the first place.

 

It goes back 40 years to Margaret Thatcher.(Thatcherism.) She deregulated the banks and made it an unregulated free-for-all, casino economics. She closed down our manufacturing base and cut off the legs of our Unions so no-one could stop her, creating an underclass of long term unemployed, and poorly paid jobs. She sold off all our assetts so we lost control of our infrastructure.  She invested the money in the banks (that went well didn't it,) and helped create the Mega Corporations and Tax Havens for the rich. She systematically began dismantling the hard won welfare state thereby removing the safety net that the poor and the disabled needed to live. Investment in infrastructure, training and society, the 'trickle down' effect, was replaced by shareholder dividends and tax cuts for the rich.  And so it goes on . . . . 

 

Blairite Labour did nothing to amend any of it, and continued the trend of feathering their own nests and hobnobbing with the rich and famous, because 'We're all middle class now...' 

 

Neoliberalism - a far greater threat to society than anything Jeremy Corbyn could come up with, yet most people don't even know what it means or that it's happening, let alone understand it, because they are fed a diet of propaganda and lies to confuse and subvert. Own the media and you can tell them anything. . . .Fake news isn't new, it's just that some of us are now more aware of it.

 

Basically just think 'winner takes all' and remember there is only one winner, and it's not us.

United Kingdom[edit]

Part of the politics series on
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During her tenure as Prime Minister, Margaret Thatcher oversaw a number of neoliberal reforms, including tax reduction, exchange rate reform, deregulation, and privatisation.[122] These reforms were continued and supported by her successor John Major. Although opposed by the Labour Party, the reforms were largely left unaltered when Labour returned to power in 1997. Indeed, the Labour government under Tony Blair even implemented a variety of privatisation and deregulation measures that had not been completed under prior governments.[123]

The Adam Smith Institute, a United Kingdom-based free market think tank and lobbying group formed in 1977 which was a major driver of the aforementioned neoliberal reforms,[124] officially changed its libertarian label to neoliberal in October 2016.[125]

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoliberalism

Great post Anna

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19 minutes ago, banjodeano said:

Great post Anna

It really isn't, its a badly pasted Wikipedia link.

 

Anna has an obsession with mentioning Neoliberalism at the moment, but I don't think she knows quite what it means.

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2 hours ago, Anna B said:

If Johnson gets in again, it will never end.

 

The crash didn't happen by chance, It was the result of the deliberate policies  of the Conservatives /Neoliberals who will  continue with all the things that led to the crash in the first place.

 

It goes back 40 years to Margaret Thatcher.(Thatcherism.) She deregulated the banks and made it an unregulated free-for-all, casino economics. She closed down our manufacturing base and cut off the legs of our Unions so no-one could stop her, creating an underclass of long term unemployed, and poorly paid jobs. She sold off all our assetts so we lost control of our infrastructure.  She invested the money in the banks (that went well didn't it,) and helped create the Mega Corporations and Tax Havens for the rich. She systematically began dismantling the hard won welfare state thereby removing the safety net that the poor and the disabled needed to live. Investment in infrastructure, training and society, the 'trickle down' effect, was replaced by shareholder dividends and tax cuts for the rich.  And so it goes on . . . . 

 

Blairite Labour did nothing to amend any of it, and continued the trend of feathering their own nests and hobnobbing with the rich and famous, because 'We're all middle class now...' 

 

Neoliberalism - a far greater threat to society than anything Jeremy Corbyn could come up with, yet most people don't even know what it means or that it's happening, let alone understand it, because they are fed a diet of propaganda and lies to confuse and subvert. Own the media and you can tell them anything. . . .Fake news isn't new, it's just that some of us are now more aware of it.

 

Basically just think 'winner takes all' and remember there is only one winner, and it's not us.

United Kingdom[edit]

Part of the politics series on
Thatcherism
Margaret Thatcher
People[show]
Organisations[show]
Related movements[show]

During her tenure as Prime Minister, Margaret Thatcher oversaw a number of neoliberal reforms, including tax reduction, exchange rate reform, deregulation, and privatisation.[122] These reforms were continued and supported by her successor John Major. Although opposed by the Labour Party, the reforms were largely left unaltered when Labour returned to power in 1997. Indeed, the Labour government under Tony Blair even implemented a variety of privatisation and deregulation measures that had not been completed under prior governments.[123]

The Adam Smith Institute, a United Kingdom-based free market think tank and lobbying group formed in 1977 which was a major driver of the aforementioned neoliberal reforms,[124] officially changed its libertarian label to neoliberal in October 2016.[125]

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoliberalism

And where in your socialist utopia would we get the money from? Other countries have tried and miserably failed.

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1 hour ago, alchresearch said:

Anna has an obsession with mentioning Neoliberalism at the moment, but I don't think she knows quite what it means.

I completely switch off whenever that word gets used.  Almost always some nonsensical rant from some total mouth frother, often people like Car Boot.

 

Thatcher however is regarded as a Neoliberalist (sp?) 

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8 minutes ago, geared said:

I completely switch off whenever that word gets used.  Almost always some nonsensical rant from some total mouth frother, often people like Car Boot.

 

Thatcher however is regarded as a Neoliberalist (sp?) 

What’s one of them?

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2 hours ago, banjodeano said:

Great post Anna

No it isn't  and far too much space wasted.

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7 hours ago, alchresearch said:

It really isn't, its a badly pasted Wikipedia link.

 

Anna has an obsession with mentioning Neoliberalism at the moment, but I don't think she knows quite what it means.

What makes you think that she doesn’t know what it means?

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8 minutes ago, Mister M said:

Boris Johnson skewered by Andrew Neill

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2019-50679252

Well if he gets a majority then any TV channel asking awkward questions could have their licence revoked - among other power grabs planned by Cummings / Johnson.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/dec/05/the-guardian-view-on-boris-johnsons-constitutional-changes-he-cannot-be-trusted

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