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22 hours ago, Mister Gee said:

He's got to get sacked at some point TF, the bloke's taking the ****.

Only once brexit is well and truly gone through. He's there when things are going really really badly. Look closely at the works of art depicting disaster or historical events through the ages. In a quiet corner of them you'll see Grayling's stupid face.

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John Bercow has ruled out another vote on the government's previously rejected Brexit agreement if the motion remains "substantially the same".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47614074

I should think he has, it looked like May would be bringing it back every week if she could...

everyone knows the deal is a failure except her, she is truly clueless....Strong and stable anyone? lol

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If people in the UK think their Government is a peopled by clueless idiots running round like headless chickens;  what do other EU countries think of the UK?

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35 minutes ago, Robin-H said:

Good news again about employment figures this morning. Number of economically inactive people at a record low. 

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47622415

But productivity is still down. How do you square that circle?

 

As for employment, people now having to work till 66, and a lot of old people having to continue working beyond that to make ends meet. Lots of people doing 'gig economy' jobs, not regular work.

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12 minutes ago, Anna B said:

But productivity is still down. How do you square that circle?

Easily: chronic under-investment.

 

Withholding investment in newer tools, machines, automation, systems <etc>  means having to hire ever more hands to do the increasing amount of work (actual, but also admin) that needs to be done just to keep level in a growing (international) commercial context.

 

You've had a long spell of under-investment after the 2008 GFC (like everywhere else), few productivity gains afterwards (in-work top-up benefits & ZHCs made employment a cheap corporate resource,  with far less exposure to 3rd parties (i.e. bankers)) and now another spell of under-investment since the 2016 referendum result (unlike everywhere else).

 

So 10 years after the 2008 GFC, you're still a productivity red lantern in the G7/G20. And in 10 days, Brexit. Which will seal that under-investment in the UK economy for another 5 years at least.

 

Slow clap optional.

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20 minutes ago, Anna B said:

But productivity is still down. How do you square that circle?

 

As for employment, people now having to work till 66, and a lot of old people having to continue working beyond that to make ends meet. Lots of people doing 'gig economy' jobs, not regular work.

Only 2.6% of people are on zero hour contracts. The figure has also decreased slightly. Also, people on zero hour contracts are more satisfied with their work/life balance than people on regular contracts, and the majority of people on zero hour contracts don’t want to work more hours. Exploitative zero hour contracts were bad, but the government banned them.

 

I’m not saying there aren’t instances now of people on zero hour contracts who want more regular and secure work, of course there are, but it doesn’t automatically mean people are being exploited. 

 

Also, the vast majority of the jobs created are full time work. 424,000 full time  vs 49,000 part time. 

 

https://mobile.twitter.com/ONSRichardClegg/status/1107940758433288192?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1107940758433288192&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bbc.co.uk%2Fnews%2Flive%2Fbusiness-47583404

27 minutes ago, Anna B said:

But productivity is still down. How do you square that circle?

 

As for employment, people now having to work till 66, and a lot of old people having to continue working beyond that to make ends meet. Lots of people doing 'gig economy' jobs, not regular work.

Productivity growth has fallen, not actual productivity levels, which are still increasing (albeit by not as much as before). 

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18 hours ago, banjodeano said:

John Bercow has ruled out another vote on the government's previously rejected Brexit agreement if the motion remains "substantially the same".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47614074

I should think he has, it looked like May would be bringing it back every week if she could...

everyone knows the deal is a failure except her, she is truly clueless....Strong and stable anyone? lol

Absolutely you couldn’t make it up could you how many times was she planning to bring it back!

like many I had some sympathy with May to start with but she has clearly run out of ideas unless she has something new to offer to sort this mess out she needs to consider standing down.

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25 minutes ago, Fudbeer said:

unless she has something new to offer to sort this mess out she needs to consider standing down.

And replaced by who?

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8 hours ago, Top Cats Hat said:

And replaced by who?

Thats for them to decide.

She has had plenty of time to come up with a solution and failed, several times time to get someone else in to sort this mess out.

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27 minutes ago, Fudbeer said:

She has had plenty of time to come up with a solution and failed, several times time to get someone else in to sort this mess out.

Do you seriously think that it can be sorted out?

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27 minutes ago, Top Cats Hat said:

Do you seriously think that it can be sorted out?

One way or another eventually it will be, does not mean for the better though.

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