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2 hours ago, banjodeano said:

They are totally incompetent, 

And now Chris Grayling  the transport secretary refuses to reveal no-deal Brexit ferry contract cancellation fee, he will not come clean how much his incompetence has cost us all...

and look at this.....The ferry company at the centre of a row over no deal Brexit planning is facing claims it used terms and conditions replicated from a takeaway delivery website.

https://news.sky.com/story/no-deal-brexit-ferry-contractors-copy-conditions-from-takeaway-website-11597798

you couldnt make it up...hahahaha

The T&Cs lifted from the takeaway site is very old news (on the Brexit news scale), but I didn't know about the contract cancellation fee exercisable by the "start-up shell company with no ferries".

 

I'm torn between believing  that the public procurement types missed it, and believing that Grayling signed it knowingly for a cut: it has been reported when the contract story first surfaced weeks ago, that as an MP he may have connections with local people involved in it.

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10 hours ago, L00b said:

I'm torn between believing  that the public procurement types missed it, and believing that Grayling signed it knowingly for a cut: it has been reported when the contract story first surfaced weeks ago, that as an MP he may have connections with local people involved in it.

It all sounded very "Yes Minister" to me.  Which is what its really like in the civil service.

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Incompetence or corruption?

 

You decide. .  . 

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Interesring that the Labour rebels have decided to stab JC and his team in the chest.

Whilst the Bonkers Brexit faction of the Conservative party have stabbed May in the back numerous times.

 

Compare and contrast. 

Integrity verses pragmatism. Are they mutually exclusive?

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One of the problems with the Conservatives is that they are totally in the thrall of the big corporations and the lobbyists.

 

The voters, and what the voters want, comes very low down on their list of priorities.  

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5 minutes ago, Anna B said:

One of the problems with the Conservatives is that they are totally in the thrall of the big corporations and the lobbyists.

 

The voters, and what the voters want, comes very low down on their list of priorities.  

And yet they keep on voting for them.

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13 minutes ago, Anna B said:

One of the problems with the Conservatives is that they are totally in the thrall of the big corporations and the lobbyists.

 

The voters, and what the voters want, comes very low down on their list of priorities.  

Didn’t Boris Johnson famously say “ **** business” as he raised the brexit revolver to the country’s temple?

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17 minutes ago, Anna B said:

One of the problems with the Conservatives is that they are totally in the thrall of the big corporations and the lobbyists.

Nissan, Airbus, AstraZeneca, Eurotunnel <etc> beg to differ.

 

Oh yeah: they want their money back, too :D

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1 hour ago, Anna B said:

One of the problems with the Conservatives is that they are totally in the thrall of the big corporations and the lobbyists.

 

The voters, and what the voters want, comes very low down on their list of priorities.  

Another of your generalisations Anna?

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1 hour ago, hobinfoot said:

And yet they keep on voting for them.

Probably because there is no viable alternative at the moment.

 

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