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Its not going to be re-introduced so theres little point arguing about it.

 

If youre so desperate to give a child a good hiding theres probably places you can go on holiday to indulge yourself!

 

I'm not desperate to give a child a good hiding. I just get frustrated when they scrapped a perfectly good system of discipline and the net result is what we have now. So instead of medical advice, support safe spaces and anything else snowflakes come up with why not think about reintroducing something that worked. If it isnt broke why did they try to fix it?

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rubbish! back in the day children knew where the line was? yes some crossed that line but there were far fewer crossing it due to the consequences and they didnt have false labels for there behavior.

 

kids that didn't have any academic qualities had apprenticeships, others like myself were lazy and bored so left early by agreement to get a job which i did at 15 and never looked back and done very well thanks.

 

what are the institutions you speak of??

 

Consequences? I went to school not a prison.

Cane or six made absolutely no difference towards attitude to indifferent and inept teaching by unqualified teachers who still thought that they were still in the forces.

Neither did long walks home on footpaths in the dark after detention.

Bullying by peers instigated through favouritism was on the other hand very effective.

 

Apprenticeships? For everybody (BOYS?) without academic qualifications? Never unless at a Boys Grammar School.

Only 25% of the children did 'O' levels and it was only from this group and the County Certs that an apprentice was offered. Sheffield benefited from the family route in the big businesses.

 

Institutions? Special schools up to mental hospitals catered for all categories of kids, sometimes with part or full boarding.

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I'm not desperate to give a child a good hiding. I just get frustrated when they scrapped a perfectly good system of discipline and the net result is what we have now.

 

From experience of going through school in the late 1950s to 1960s I can tell you categorically that school punishment did not work in the majority of cases as it was unnecessary and cruel. It was easily and frequently abused by teachers and covered up by the schools. Have you ever had a wooden blackboard rubber thrown at your head and making contact, had a teacher twist your sideburns until they bled, had the slipper from a PE teacher because you didnt get yer bum down far enough when doing press-ups, seen the headmaster jump in the air when caning someone to give it more of a hit? All the above and more happened to me and others because these people took great pleasure in torture and got away with it because "discipline" was allowed.

 

So no, it was not a good system. Its a bit like the idea that bringing back hanging is a deterrent, and yet when it was in place people still murdered others.

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I'm not desperate to give a child a good hiding. I just get frustrated when they scrapped a perfectly good system of discipline and the net result is what we have now. So instead of medical advice, support safe spaces and anything else snowflakes come up with why not think about reintroducing something that worked. If it isnt broke why did they try to fix it?

 

Jesus, you just posted that you think children with mental or behavioural problems should be beaten. Are you a pervert?

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From experience of going through school in the late 1950s to 1960s I can tell you categorically that school punishment did not work in the majority of cases as it was unnecessary and cruel. It was easily and frequently abused by teachers and covered up by the schools. Have you ever had a wooden blackboard rubber thrown at your head and making contact, had a teacher twist your sideburns until they bled, had the slipper from a PE teacher because you didnt get yer bum down far enough when doing press-ups, seen the headmaster jump in the air when caning someone to give it more of a hit? All the above and more happened to me and others because these people took great pleasure in torture and got away with it because "discipline" was allowed.

 

So no, it was not a good system. Its a bit like the idea that bringing back hanging is a deterrent, and yet when it was in place people still murdered others.

 

I started school in 1951. They were fond of the tawse (a thick leather belt) in Scottish schools back then. I had a teacher for my last three years of primary school who was a vicious old woman. No other teacher before or after gave me the belt. I was a well behaved child, but she took every opportunity she could. I wasn't her only victim.

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I'm not desperate to give a child a good hiding. I just get frustrated when they scrapped a perfectly good system of discipline and the net result is what we have now. So instead of medical advice, support safe spaces and anything else snowflakes come up with why not think about reintroducing something that worked. If it isnt broke why did they try to fix it?

 

When did you last set foot in a school? The 1950s? You know nothing.

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Jesus, you just posted that you think children with mental or behavioural problems should be beaten. Are you a pervert?

 

When i was at school bad behavior was punished , now people make excuses for it and give it trendy names like ADHD.

 

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When did you last set foot in a school? The 1950s? You know nothing.

 

bad behavior in schools should be punished ,and stamped down on hard , it dosnt matter what year it is .

 

Its no surprise there are so many out of control kids when there are people out there making excuses for them and stopping schools disciplining the the little darlings.

 

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Its not going to be re-introduced so theres little point arguing about it.

 

If youre so desperate to give a child a good hiding theres probably places you can go on holiday to indulge yourself!

 

Unfortunately .

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When i was at school bad behavior was punished , now people make excuses for it and give it trendy names like ADHD.

 

---------- Post added 17-11-2018 at 00:17 ----------

 

 

bad behavior in schools should be punished ,and stamped down on hard , it dosnt matter what year it is .

 

Its no surprise there are so many out of control kids when there are people out there making excuses for them and stopping schools disciplining the the little darlings.

 

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Unfortunately .

 

It's quite clear that an 'old fashioned' education did you no favours; you're semi literate and totally lacking in critical thinking skills and empathy.

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Jesus, you just posted that you think children with mental or behavioural problems should be beaten. Are you a pervert?

 

Im just as shocked as you , a child cant help having Mental problems But to say they should be beaten is crazy

 

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Some Children do have Adhd and other issues and Schools like Forge valley DO HAVE things in place for this and Teachers thats trained in this field of work , Any child should not be punished for having any type of Mental Problems in this day and age ,

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When i was at school bad behavior was punished , now people make excuses for it and give it trendy names like ADHD.

 

---------- Post added 17-11-2018 at 00:17 ----------

 

 

bad behavior in schools should be punished ,and stamped down on hard , it dosnt matter what year it is .

 

Its no surprise there are so many out of control kids when there are people out there making excuses for them and stopping schools disciplining the the little darlings.

 

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Unfortunately .

 

Whilst I don't doubt that there are genuine cases of such behavioral conditions as ADHD I do doubt the sheer numbers of parents claiming their kid has one of said conditions is nonsense.

 

I also believe that some parents who child is diagnosed with a condition then use it as an excuse for poor behaviour rather than spending the extra time with the child that they needs to teach the child how to control it as best they can.

 

I knew a set of parents, a long time ago, who's child was diagnosed with Add and dyslexia. The school had it's own support system which was, as much as budget would allow, bespoke to the individual child.

 

This particular child was loaned a laptop by the school, which was regularly inspected by the IT support dept. On 2 consecutive inspections pornography was found in a hidden folder. On the first occasion the material was deleted and he and his parents brought in and told any further instances of that nature and he would be expelled and subsequently he was.

 

His parents, rather than dealing with their child, turned on the school and tried to sue on the basis of discrimination. They were unsuccessful.

 

But it highlights the fact that rather than face the issue and deal with their child they just wanted to use it as an excuse rather than face it.

 

There's also a battle raging at my niece's school with a parent and the school over her child's behaviour. The parent is claiming her child has ADHD and the school should be provisioning for that however the child has not had any formal diagnosis and the parent is not interested in gaining one. The school has said that they are willing to begin helping the child whilst a diagnosis is confirmed if the path to diagnosis is started, however the parent is refusing and in her words (spoken openly in the playground)

 

"She's ma kid, a no she's got ADHD n everyfing. School shud just tek ma word am a mam"

 

(written as said)

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It's quite clear that an 'old fashioned' education did you no favours; you're semi literate and totally lacking in critical thinking skills and empathy.

 

old fashioned education and schooling resulted in respectful kids who grew up to be respectful adults........................today and from the early 90,s onwards not so!

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Load of absolute rubbish being spouted out about the lad needing corporal punishment.

He needs to be taught in a class or school appropriate for his problems. That also means away from the other 30 kids in the class who also need to be not discriminated against for not having a disability.

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