barmyowls   11 #1 Posted November 15, 2018 https://www.thestar.co.uk/news/education/sheffield-school-unlawfully-discriminated-against-disabled-pupil-1-9445238  I find this Shocking by the School Discriminated because The Pupil is Disabled !! This should not happen in this day and age !! As stated somebodys job should go for this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Mister M Â Â 1,608 #2 Posted November 15, 2018 I bet this kind of discrimination goes on a lot more than is first thought. Â Many disabilities and learning needs often go unrecognised, and consequently children struggle needlessly through school. But congratulations to the child's grandfather, who from what I read sounds quite a tenacious character. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
amazon123 Â Â 17 #3 Posted November 16, 2018 There are far too many children with "behavioural difficulties" ruining the education of other children who want to learn. Whatever problems this boy has, his inclusion at school shouldn't be at the expense of excluding others from their right to education. Alternative provision should be found for him and his problems should have been better dealt with by the family and medical professionals. Schools have a huge amount to deal with. Pandering to "behavioural difficulties" shouldn't be one of them anymore. It's time to take a stand. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
woodmally   10 #4 Posted November 16, 2018 There are far too many children with "behavioural difficulties" ruining the education of other children who want to learn. Whatever problems this boy has, his inclusion at school shouldn't be at the expense of excluding others from their right to education. Alternative provision should be found for him and his problems should have been better dealt with by the family and medical professionals. Schools have a huge amount to deal with. Pandering to "behavioural difficulties" shouldn't be one of them anymore. It's time to take a stand.  Spot on. And also maybe a good hiding would solve these "behavioral difficulties". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
lil-minx92   10 #5 Posted November 16, 2018 https://www.thestar.co.uk/news/education/sheffield-school-unlawfully-discriminated-against-disabled-pupil-1-9445238  I find this Shocking by the School Discriminated because The Pupil is Disabled !! This should not happen in this day and age !! As stated somebodys job should go for this  From the article- David Dennis, executive headteacher of Tapton School Academy Trust, of which Forge Valley is a part of, said “We have apologised to the student for the fact that we did not know that they had a mental health disability and for any stress or inconvenience this may have caused.  Fake news.  How could they take it into account if they didnt know about it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
amazon123 Â Â 17 #6 Posted November 16, 2018 (edited) Spot on. And also maybe a good hiding would solve these "behavioral difficulties". Â I don't think so, no. Specialist treatment and intervention from medical professionals trained to deal with mental health problems should be sought. The reasons behind the boy's behavioural problems should be identified. The boy's parents should be given strategies to help their child develop and lead a productive life. The boy himself should also develop these strategies as he's almost an adult. Leaving him to wreak havoc in a classroom of 30+ other teenagers, many of whom will also have behavioural and learning needs of their own, is not the solution. Expecting teachers to take on the roles of educator, caregiver, parent, mental health professional and countless other responsibilities is, clearly, ridiculous. This boy's grandfather should look to himself and see what he can do to help his grandson rather than pointing the finger of blame at other people. But then that's the first recourse of a certain "section" of society (most of whom are to be found cluttering up the comments section of the Daily Mail, as well as its pages with hard luck stories). Edited November 16, 2018 by amazon123 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
woodmally   10 #7 Posted November 16, 2018 I don't think so, no. Specialist treatment and intervention from medical professionals trained to deal with mental health problems should be sought. The reasons behind the boy's behavioural problems should be identified. The boy's parents should be given strategies to help their child develop and lead a productive life. The boy himself should also develop these strategies as he's almost an adult. Leaving him to wreak havoc in a classroom of 30+ other teenagers, many of whom will also have behavioural and learning needs of their own, is not the solution.  But did we have this problem when corporal punishment was around in school or when parents used to smack children to prevent them from being idiots. All this support medical help seems ridiculous. We never had this problem back in the day so why is it an issue now? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
lil-minx92 Â Â 10 #8 Posted November 16, 2018 I don't think so, no. Specialist treatment and intervention from medical professionals trained to deal with mental health problems should be sought. The reasons behind the boy's behavioural problems should be identified. The boy's parents should be given strategies to help their child develop and lead a productive life. The boy himself should also develop these strategies as he's almost an adult. Leaving him to wreak havoc in a classroom of 30+ other teenagers, many of whom will also have behavioural and learning needs of their own, is not the solution. Expecting teachers to take on the roles of educator, caregiver, parent, mental health professional and countless other responsibilities is, clearly, ridiculous. This boy's grandfather should look to himself and see what he can do to help his grandson rather than pointing the finger of blame at other people. But then that's the first recourse of a certain "section" of society (most of whom are to be found cluttering up the comments section of the Daily Mail, as well as its pages with hard luck stories). Â As only the grandfather seems to be getting involved maybe the parents arent positively involved in the childs life for whatever reason Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
amazon123   17 #9 Posted November 16, 2018 As only the grandfather seems to be getting involved maybe the parents arent positively involved in the childs life for whatever reason  Indeed. So why haven't social services intervened to monitor and secure this boy's upbringing? Most probably because they're massively overstretched. So who is responsible? Seemingly, schools and teachers. Who is blamed by family members when the boy becomes unable to function in basic social situations? Everyone else. The system is broken. It seems the only people who aren't to blame in these situations are the family who have shown themselves completely unable to cope with the responsibilities they took on when they became parents. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
lil-minx92 Â Â 10 #10 Posted November 16, 2018 Indeed. So why haven't social services intervened to monitor and secure this boy's upbringing? Most probably because they're massively overstretched. So who is responsible? Seemingly, schools and teachers. Who is blamed by family members when the boy becomes unable to function in basic social situations? Everyone else. The system is broken. It seems the only people who aren't to blame in these situations are the family who have shown themselves completely unable to cope with the responsibilities they took on when they became parents. Â Totally agree with everything there. Â Too many inadequates are having children Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
amazon123 Â Â 17 #11 Posted November 16, 2018 But did we have this problem when corporal punishment was around in school or when parents used to smack children to prevent them from being idiots. All this support medical help seems ridiculous. We never had this problem back in the day so why is it an issue now? Â I agree with the discipline side of what you're saying, but a return to corporal punishment will never happen (and quite rightly, I think). That said, I know a number of secondary schools in Sheffield now have zero-tolerance behaviour policies which many decry as draconian but, as far as I can see, lead to purposeful learning environments and good pupil progress (Outwood and Newfield for instance, both have which have seen exam results improve rapidly). Children need and, in fact, appreciate boundaries, structure and routine. Â Those who are unable to cope with structured learning need support, certainly, but shouldn't expect to be welcomed with open arms into lessons while hurling chairs around and screaming about their problems. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
woodmally   10 #12 Posted November 16, 2018 I agree with the discipline side of what you're saying, but a return to corporal punishment will never happen (and quite rightly, I think). That said, I know a number of secondary schools in Sheffield now have zero-tolerance behaviour policies which many decry as draconian but, as far as I can see, lead to purposeful learning environments and good pupil progress (Outwood and Newfield for instance, both have which have seen exam results improve rapidly). Children need and, in fact, appreciate boundaries, structure and routine.  Those who are unable to cope with structured learning need support, certainly, but shouldn't expect to be welcomed with open arms into lessons while hurling chairs around and screaming about their problems.  But why shouldnt corporal punishment be brought back. From everyone that went through the system tells me it worked. So why not bring it back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...