Four dead in Darnall crash 09/11/2018

[melthebell 863]

Criminals assaulting other criminals. Why do you have an issue with that ?

we are a civilised country, and have morals, and we dont allow laws to be changed willy nilly depending on which bad guy we encounter

[Jim Hardie 527]

the link is below

 

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1325496/15-years-for-drink-driver-who-killed-six.html

 

Thanks for that and apologies for my previous post. Not sure why the five year sentences were unlawful, but as the saying goes, 'the law is an ass'.

[kidley 48]

Thanks for that and apologies for my previous post. Not sure why the five year sentences were unlawful, but as the saying goes, 'the law is an ass'.

 

 

P+p

 

on a "motorised pub crawl" was jailed for 15 years yesterday after a judge said the maximum 10-year penalty was "wholly inadequate".

 

Judge Alan Goldsack, QC, said that although the charges related to one accident, he was sentencing Peter Noble to consecutive sentences for causing death by dangerous driving on the basis that six people had died. Noble - who had three previous drink-driving convictions and was banned from driving when the accident happened in Julwhat it means is

 

My Bold

the judge did not think a 10 year sentence was enough so. he sentenced noble for two crimes when he should have given him the maximum 10 year sentence for the one incident.

noble's sentence was not reduced it was corrected.

[Jim Hardie 527]

P+p

 

on a "motorised pub crawl" was jailed for 15 years yesterday after a judge said the maximum 10-year penalty was "wholly inadequate".

 

Judge Alan Goldsack, QC, said that although the charges related to one accident, he was sentencing Peter Noble to consecutive sentences for causing death by dangerous driving on the basis that six people had died. Noble - who had three previous drink-driving convictions and was banned from driving when the accident happened in Julwhat it means is

 

My Bold

the judge did not think a 10 year sentence was enough so. he sentenced noble for two crimes when he should have given him the maximum 10 year sentence for the one incident.

noble's sentence was not reduced it was corrected.

 

Thanks again.

[kidley 48]

Thanks again.

 

 

cheers jim

[Ms Macbeth 75]

What a tragedy for the families who have lost their loved ones. A completely needless accident with horrific consequences.

[arrowhead 23]

UPDATE - Two men will appear in court today charged in connection to a collision in Darnall, in which four people were killed.

 

Elliott Bower, 18, of Harborough Avenue, the driver of the vehicle involved in the collision, has been charged with four counts of causing death by dangerous driving and three counts of causing serious injury by dangerous driving. He is also charged with handling stolen goods and possession of cannabis.

 

Declan Bower, 23, of Harborough Avenue, has been charged with aggravated vehicle taking and death caused by an accident with aggravated factors. He is also charged with handing stolen goods, two counts of driving while disqualified, two counts of driving without insurance, possession of a bladed article and possession of cannabis.

[*Wallace* 333]

Air stealers both of them.

[Daven 10]

Their parents must be so proud:mad:

[Top Cats Hat 10]

It depends if you believe in the nature or the nurture theory I guess.

Both may apply of course.

 

Both always apply to varying degrees.

 

There is some interesting research done on identical twins separated at birth which suggest that nature has a much more profound effect than previously thought although these cases are fairly rare so statistically inconclusive.

 

Even nurture isn't all down to the parents. After the first couple of years all sorts of other environmental factors (including even diet!) affect an individual's development.

 

Knee jerk statements like 'their parents made them what they are' are neither helpful nor accurate.

[lil-minx92 10]

their parents made them what they are:rant:

 

According to Facebook their mum died 13 years ago

[kidley 48]

 

Not 100% sure why Saudi Arabia has a relatively low crime rate. Some say it is because Sharia Law acts as a deterrent, but then others show that there are neighbouring countries with Sharia Law that have relatively high crime rates.

 

 

I know they currently host ex-terrorists in "lavish" prisons which seems to work in terms of rehabilitating them into Saudi society (even when they aren't Saudi nationals) - is that what you mean? https://qz.com/1028597/saudi-arabia-terrorism-rehabilitation-plan-includes-a-lavish-prison-with-family-time/

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-40061550

 

Edit to add: They appear to have a rapidly rising crime rate (albeit from a low base), due to economic and societal issues.

 

Maybe this is why

 

C+P



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Why is Saudi Arabia’s crime rate so low?

 



Mohammed Yousuf, PRO & Business Setup Consultant, U.A.E (Since 35 years)

Answered Oct 20, 2017 · Author has 2.9k answers and 1.8m answer views

Due to implementation of Islamic Sharia laws in Saudi Arabia the crime rate is very low and people are living in peace and harmony. There are expats living in Saudi Arabia from more than a hundred different nationalities. Just imagine if there is no strict laws then what would have happen to the people. Rapists and murderers are beheaded in public so that the public can see the execution themselves and see the result. A thief gets his palm amputated and if he repeats the theft he other palm also gets the same fate. The laws applies to all irrespective of their nationality, color or religion. Even the Saudi nationals are also not spared. Law is for every one.

 

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