The Royal Family Discussion Thread

[Anna B 1,414]

On 09/01/2022 at 09:50, hauxwell said:

It’s a happy 40th birthday from me to. 

A very beautiful and capable young woman, with a husband and 3 lovely children. 

 

She's fitted into her royal role very well and is more down to earth than your usual royal, thanks to being a 'commoner.'

Let's hope she and her own family keep William grounded too.

 

Thanks to Kate and Diana's influence, there's some hope for William, who has been brought up differently to Charles and the rest, and hopefully has a strong sense of duty rather than entitlement.

Edited January 10, 2022 by Anna B

[PRESLEY 1,230]

13 hours ago, steved32 said:

Oh my God... spare us the schmaltzy, scruffy details.

 

Wonder whether paedo Uncle Andy has sent a pressie.

 

When Lizzie dies, let's have a referendum for a Republic, then we can ensure our nation does not fund privilege, preference and perversion.

Here here! Come back Oliver Cromwell alls forgiven,  

[PRESLEY 1,230]

4 minutes ago, West 77 said:

There is no demand for a referendum regarding the monarchy.  No political party supports holding such a referendum.  It took decades to get a referendum regarding out country's membership of the EU when there was a huge demand for one.  If you want a referendum about the monarchy then I suggest you form your own political party like what UKIP did and put in decades of hard work to achieve your goal.

 

BTW Prince Andrew is an innocent man.

Your hilarious, 

[hauxwell 243]

8 hours ago, Anna B said:

A very beautiful and capable young woman, with a husband and 3 lovely children. 

 

She's fitted into her royal role very well and is more down to earth than your usual royal, thanks to being a 'commoner.'

Let's hope she and her own family keep William grounded too.

 

Thanks to Kate and Diana's influence, there's some hope for William, who has been brought up differently to Charles and the rest, and hopefully has a strong sense of duty rather than entitlement.

I also think William has made a good choice marrying Kate.  She was a commoner before they married, but a classy one.

 

Also it can’t be good when members of the Royal Family marry relatives, to many genetic problems. 

[hauxwell 243]

9 hours ago, PRESLEY said:

Here here! Come back Oliver Cromwell alls forgiven,  

Cromwell didn’t last for long Presley, they soon decided the monarchy, with reduced powers,  was a better option than a republican country.  

[Anna B 1,414]

2 minutes ago, hauxwell said:

Cromwell didn’t last for long Presley, they soon decided the monarchy, with reduced powers,  was a better option than a republican country.  

Mmmm, not sure they (the people) decided this,  more like the nobs and landed gentry with most to lose. 

As usual one lot of wealthy self interest was replaced by another lot of wealthy self interest who had attained more power.

 

It was over another 200 years before ordinary men got a say in anything, with a democratic vote, (and women even longer.) Oliver Cromwell did some good for the common man, but got a bad press from the nobs who despised him for obvious reasons, villified him, and told the people what they wanted. Cromwell was the Jeremy Corbyn of his day.

[cuttsie 1,091]

6 minutes ago, Anna B said:

Mmmm, not sure they (the people) decided this,  more like the nobs and landed gentry with most to lose. 

As usual one lot of wealthy self interest was replaced by another lot of wealthy self interest who had attained more power.

 

It was over another 200 years before ordinary men got a say in anything, with a democratic vote, (and women even longer.) Oliver Cromwell did some good for the common man, but got a bad press from the nobs who despised him for obvious reasons, villified him, and told the people what they wanted. Cromwell was the Jeremy Corbyn of his day.

And the church they led to his downfall as well. But been as they and the monarchy are one and the same what else could you expect /

[PRESLEY 1,230]

Has been correctly pointed out,  peasents versus nobs and gentry doused in self interest in mind had the upperhand, the peasents are different these days. 

[Anna B 1,414]

1 hour ago, PRESLEY said:

Has been correctly pointed out,  peasents versus nobs and gentry doused in self interest in mind had the upperhand, the peasents are different these days. 

Are they? I'm not sure about that. All through history the nobs have been in charge. The labour party is less than a hundred years old and has been out of power most of the time, which means even when the working man has someone fighting his corner he is so subservient he doesn't trust them and votes for what he knows instead. The Tories/ nobs are brilliant at exploiting that. They should be, they've had centuries of practise.

[PRESLEY 1,230]

We live in the real modern world with Techno ect,  The days of the court jester are long gone along with jousting and putting people in stocks and I put the Royals in the same bracket,  lets move on and put these lot in the history books,  they are really  just one big embarrasment to this Country,  the rest of the world are having a right laugh at this Country.  .  

[crookesey 635]

11 hours ago, Anna B said:

Mmmm, not sure they (the people) decided this,  more like the nobs and landed gentry with most to lose. 

As usual one lot of wealthy self interest was replaced by another lot of wealthy self interest who had attained more power.

 

It was over another 200 years before ordinary men got a say in anything, with a democratic vote, (and women even longer.) Oliver Cromwell did some good for the common man, but got a bad press from the nobs who despised him for obvious reasons, villified him, and told the people what they wanted. Cromwell was the Jeremy Corbyn of his day.

Charles classed the royalty as being divine, whatamistakatomaka.

[trastrick 866]

For the entire history of mankind the strong have dominated the weak.

 

Rise up and revolt against them with superior numbers, and you'll be incited and led by the next generation of the ever opportunistic  power hungry class.

 

Those symbols of power, uniforms, palaces and mansions, with the accompanying orbs, septres and chains of office, medals and awards, will always be occupied, just by different tenants.

 

The fledgling democracies that do exist, allow at least a limited choice of overseer.

 

Monarch, Generalissimo, Religious Leader, Capitalist, Statist Bureaucrat, or some unholy combination of same.

 

Of all the above, these days, the statist bureaucrat has , by far, the easiest route to real power.

 

Protect your precious vote, at all costs!

 

 

Edited January 11, 2022 by trastrick