lil-minx92 Â Â 10 #25 Posted October 1, 2018 If the Tories stay in power, austerity will become the new normal. They have no intention of reversing the cuts. Eventually people will forget what it was like before the financial crash and just accept things the way they are. The financial crash is already part of history. Â Ah yes this is a phenomenon described well in the book The Establishment- How They Get Away With It. Cant remember the name of the concept..paradigm window or something Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Baron99 Â Â 795 #26 Posted October 1, 2018 If the Tories stay in power, austerity will become the new normal. They have no intention of reversing the cuts. Eventually people will forget what it was like before the financial crash and just accept things the way they are. The financial crash is already part of history. Â And the first austerity measures were introduced by the Rt. Hon. Gordon Brown PM. Also at the last election, it's well documented that Lab, under Corbyn was going to keep the Tory austerity measures in place, had Lab won. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Mister M   1,625 #27 Posted October 1, 2018 Ah yes this is a phenomenon described well in the book The Establishment- How They Get Away With It. Cant remember the name of the concept..paradigm window or something  Is it the Overton Window? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
lil-minx92 Â Â 10 #28 Posted October 1, 2018 Is it the Overton Window? Â thats the one! thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
truman   10 #29 Posted October 1, 2018 If the Tories stay in power, austerity will become the new normal. They have no intention of reversing the cuts. Eventually people will forget what it was like before the financial crash and just accept things the way they are. The financial crash is already part of history.  Don't you think it has any relevance to today's situation? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
the_bloke   17 #30 Posted October 1, 2018 Borrowing is continuing to fall and has done since the start of austerity. Once borrowing isn't needed then the debt can be paid off. Plenty of economic data to prove this is the case.  Major's government had a five year plan that was still in effect after they lost the election in 1997; it's why we had a surplus in the first few years of Labour then it went pear shaped around 2001/2002.  There is obviously a need to start putting more money into certain parts of the public system post austerity, but to just revert back to what it was pre crash is folly; austerity has forced a lot of the public sector to work smarter and find new ways of doing things when previously they didn't have to and probably wouldn't have done so. Just going back to how things were in 2007 for the sake of it isn't the way forward.  I wouldn't expect your bins to be collected weekly again, and for those of us who don't see a doctor very often, have the misfortune of going to hospital or rely on the state financially, that's about the sum of the impact of austerity in daily life. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
El Cid   220 #31 Posted October 1, 2018 If the Tories stay in power, austerity will become the new normal.  I pay my mortgage every month, so I am in debt, but I also have savings, I would imagine you do.  Does our Government have any money in the bank? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
I1L2T3   10 #32 Posted October 1, 2018 The problem here isn’t the idea of streamlining departments and making sensible spending decisions. That is the job of any government.  The problem is using austerity with all of the negative connotations as a political badge of honour.  There’s something disgusting about that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
ANGELFIRE1 Â Â 10 #33 Posted October 1, 2018 What the Tories say they'll do, and what the Tories actually do, are two different things... Â Â Such is the Politics of to-day. This old saying is spot on, how do you know when a Politician is telling fibs - when their lips are moving. Â Angel1. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
El Cid   220 #34 Posted October 1, 2018 The Governments debt amounts to £1,781.4 billion; the Governments yearly income from taxes is £750 billion. If that was personal debt, that would be like someone that had a yearly income of £15,000 being in debt by over £30,000; that is a very large amount of debt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Robin-H Â Â 11 #35 Posted October 1, 2018 What the Tories say they'll do, and what the Tories actually do, are two different things... Â I think you'll actually find that they fulfil a much higher percentage of their pledges than they break, but don't let the truth get in the way of a good soundbite.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
tinfoilhat   11 #36 Posted October 1, 2018 The problem here isn’t the idea of streamlining departments and making sensible spending decisions. That is the job of any government. The problem is using austerity with all of the negative connotations as a political badge of honour.  There’s something disgusting about that.  Genuine question, do you think the unions would get behind the cuts/streamlining a bit more if it came from a Labour government? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...