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There's more to life than money. Once you've looked after someone with dementia day in day out, night in night out (they keep odd hours) you sort of know. You seem a decent bloke and I hope you don't get the short straw and have to look after a parent, or god forbid, parents with dementia.

 

Some care homes won't even take people with Alzheimer's because they're too difficult to look after (ie, not cost effective.) So the family has to struggle on in impossible circumstances. Yet Alzheimer's is not officially recognised as an illness.

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This is how Muslim culture works, why do you think there are not many Muslims in nursing homes?

I didnt specifically have four kids to make sure I have a carer and if non of them decide to look after me or my mrs if we need it then it will be their inheritance that will be getting spent paying ridiculous care home fees.

The Muslim way is very different to the way you describe in the last bit of your post.

 

A sheltered housing complex was built in Gloucester specifically for the Muslim community called "Apna Ghar " it stood unused for months without residents until they opened it up to all, it then very quickly filled up (my mother being one), but as far as I know not one Muslim ever lived there.

Taking care of your own seems to be instilled in the Muslim psyche, and fair play to that :thumbsup:

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Yet Alzheimer's is not officially recognised as an illness.

 

How do you make this stuff up?

 

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/alzheimers-disease/diagnosis/

 

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It's a private property so nothing to do with the council & apparently it's all legal. Just a change of names on the Land Registry. Nothing to do with a wiil or a gift of any kind.

 

Any transfer of any property is either a sale or a gift. If you didn't pay for it, it's been gifted.

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Some care homes won't even take people with Alzheimer's because they're too difficult to look after (ie, not cost effective.) So the family has to struggle on in impossible circumstances. Yet Alzheimer's is not officially recognised as an illness.

 

Alzheimer's isn't officially an illness? Do you have a source for that. Every single thing I've read about it suggests the opposite..

 

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It's a private property so nothing to do with the council & apparently it's all legal. Just a change of names on the Land Registry. Nothing to do with a wiil or a gift of any kind.

 

https://www.gov.uk/inheritance-tax/passing-on-home

 

That isn't true. It is a gift. The 7 year rule applies. If they still live in the property (and the new owners don't) then, as others have said, they will need to pay market rent.

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Some care homes won't even take people with Alzheimer's because they're too difficult to look after (ie, not cost effective.) So the family has to struggle on in impossible circumstances. Yet Alzheimer's is not officially recognised as an illness.

 

Proof of your outrageous and frankly insulting assertion?

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Some care homes won't even take people with Alzheimer's because they're too difficult to look after (ie, not cost effective.) So the family has to struggle on in impossible circumstances. Yet Alzheimer's is not officially recognised as an illness.

 

Would you want a relative with Alzheimers being cared for in a place that doesn't have the necessary experience/staff etc?

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Some care homes won't even take people with Alzheimer's because they're too difficult to look after (ie, not cost effective.) So the family has to struggle on in impossible circumstances. Yet Alzheimer's is not officially recognised as an illness.

 

But those homes are few and far between thankfully, so the family looks for another one. Come on Anna, you're in Sheffield not the middle of nowhere, they aren't thin on the ground.

 

But I don't know why it's not recognised as an illness. Well, I do, it's cost.

 

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Proof of your outrageous and frankly insulting assertion?

 

Because if it was an illness you'd get care for free. If I was dying of cancer I'd end up in hospice eventually for free.

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There seems to be a general lack of understanding on this thread with the terms 'care home' and 'nursing home'.

 

A care home is not a nursing home; it has no nurse. If the person requires nursing care, such as the dispensing of certain medication, then they need to be in a nursing home which is obviously more expensive as it allows specialist care.

 

People with dementia go into nursing homes, not care homes.

 

https://balcombecarehomes.co.uk/2014/04/explaining-difference-care-home-nursing-home/

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Where do old and decrepit attack helicopters go though?

Edited by Cyclone

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There seems to be a general lack of understanding on this thread with the terms 'care home' and 'nursing home'.

 

A care home is not a nursing home; it has no nurse. If the person requires nursing care, such as the dispensing of certain medication, then they need to be in a nursing home which is obviously more expensive as it allows specialist care.

 

People with dementia go into nursing homes, not care homes.

 

https://balcombecarehomes.co.uk/2014/04/explaining-difference-care-home-nursing-home/

 

No, that's not correct. You can go into a care home if you just have Alzheimer's- there isn't much nursing required just care. If you have Alzheimer's and diabetes for example where you need injections, it will be a nursing home. There are care homes out there that specialise in just Alzheimer's care.

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Alzheimer's isn't officially an illness? Do you have a source for that. Every single thing I've read about it suggests the opposite..

 

---------- Post added 27-09-2018 at 08:28 ----------

 

 

https://www.gov.uk/inheritance-tax/passing-on-home

 

That isn't true. It is a gift. The 7 year rule applies. If they still live in the property (and the new owners don't) then, as others have said, they will need to pay market rent.

 

OF COURSE IT'S AN ILLNESS!

 

I actually said it's not officially considered an illness. It's not officially considered an illness for the benefit of care home funding.

 

It's considered as simply a condition of old age - which it isn't: much younger people can have Alzheimer's, and it is also a feature of other nuerological illnesses like Huntingdon's Chorea, (HC) and if a feature of old age, every old person would have it. Therefore Alzheimer's does not generally qualify the sufferer for 'continuing care' which would grant them a fully funded place in a care home/nursing home.

 

There have been several court cases about it and occasionally won, but there has been a deliberate refusal to admit it to case law, in other words each case has to be faught individually, at great expense to the litigent.

 

I've had a quick google and this is the first thing I found, I'm sure there are better links.

 

http://www.carehomefundinginvestigators.co.uk/case-studies

Edited by Anna B

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