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Britain is still considered to be a tax haven, so not enough has been done.

 

Then there are the Russian oligarchs etc buying up land and property just to have it lie idle as a tax dodge. There's plenty still to be done.

 

But that isn't what you said.

 

You said that the Tory's had failed to close loopholes. This is untrue.

 

What's the tax rate in Russia?

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Britain is still considered to be a tax haven, so not enough has been done.

 

Then there are the Russian oligarchs etc buying up land and property just to have it lie idle as a tax dodge. There's plenty still to be done.

 

Ok so let's talk numbers.

 

How much can we save do you think if we close these loopholes. What sort of figure?

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Britain is still considered to be a tax haven, so not enough has been done.

 

Then there are the Russian oligarchs etc buying up land and property just to have it lie idle as a tax dodge. There's plenty still to be done.

 

But thats not policy is it?

 

I know its your typical response to ignore anyone who challenges your claims and asks you evidence it but if you could answer any of the questions to your post in the last page it would make your claims more credible and substantiated instead of just spouting your opinion and claiming it as the word of the lord Corbz

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But thats not policy is it?

 

I know its your typical response to ignore anyone who challenges your claims and asks you evidence it but if you could answer any of the questions to your post in the last page it would make your claims more credible and substantiated instead of just spouting your opinion and claiming it as the word of the lord Corbz

 

Well, excuse me, but this forum is supposed to be about opinions, and I can assure you mine are as valied as anyone else's.

 

If it's evidence you want...

 

'UK a tax haven for Multinationals'

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-27187398

 

'The UK is the most important player in Tax havens'

http://www.ethicalconsumer.org/commentanalysis/ethicaleconomics/theukandtaxhavens.aspx

 

'Is the UK turning into a tax haven?'

https://iea.org.uk/blog/is-the-uk-turning-a-tax-haven

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Well, excuse me, but this forum is supposed to be about opinions, and I can assure you mine are as valied as anyone else's.

 

If it's evidence you want...

 

'UK a tax haven for Multinationals'

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-27187398

 

'The UK is the most important player in Tax havens'

http://www.ethicalconsumer.org/commentanalysis/ethicaleconomics/theukandtaxhavens.aspx

 

'Is the UK turning into a tax haven?'

https://iea.org.uk/blog/is-the-uk-turning-a-tax-haven

 

WOW! Some serious hard evidence there Anna.

 

A four year old report about an "opinion" of an unnamed head of an unnamed bank and two blog posts from a couple of think tank/campaign organisations.

 

Hardly verified factual evidence is it.

 

A 10 second google you would have at least been able to find the 2018 results from the reguarly quoted Tax Justice Network campaign group and the UK is not even in the top 20. In fact we are 23rd in the list with places such as Canada, Japan, Germany, the Netherlands and the USA well above us.

 

https://www.financialsecrecyindex.com/introduction/fsi-2018-results

 

Even taking all those figures I have provided they still simply boil down to the minipulated statistics of a campaign group with their own clear agenda to show whatever they want. Some of their narrative about how the uk's ranking does not reflect its true major influence over the tax avoidance world blah blah blah is just absolute desprate nonsense.

 

They must have wet their knickers when Mossack Fonseca closed.

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Well, excuse me, but this forum is supposed to be about opinions, and I can assure you mine are as valied as anyone else's.

 

If it's evidence you want...

 

'UK a tax haven for Multinationals'

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-27187398

 

'The UK is the most important player in Tax havens'

http://www.ethicalconsumer.org/commentanalysis/ethicaleconomics/theukandtaxhavens.aspx

 

'Is the UK turning into a tax haven?'

https://iea.org.uk/blog/is-the-uk-turning-a-tax-haven

 

I know you are going to probably ignore this hoping desperately that I stop asking these questions but...

How much can we save do you think if we close these loopholes. What sort of figure?

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Well, excuse me, but this forum is supposed to be about opinions, and I can assure you mine are as valied as anyone else's.

 

You are correct, the forum is about opinions and your opinion is as valid as everyone elses, but you aren't putting opinion. You are putting claims down saying that they are policies and ideas of the Labour Party and Lord Jez. When challenged on this to substantiate and evidence them then you either ignore the evidence or go onto something else.

 

If you put that "I think that it woudl be a good idea if" then its your opinion. If you put "it was a Labour plan that was stolen" or "the independant national bank is Labours equivalent of the soveriegn fund and will be funded by tax rises and closing loopholes" then you are claiming facts and you should expect to be challenged on them as i would expect to be challenged if i claimed something in my posts.

 

If it's evidence you want...

 

'UK a tax haven for Multinationals'

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-27187398

a 4 year old blog piece with unnamed sources. I could write the same and put "a source told me" and comment on how Britian is attracting new multinational companies and creating jobs inthe UK while investing money and it would be no different to that article. No facts, no figures, no trace. Not really evidence

 

A 5 year old report quoting a previous Prime Minister and also including a table which shows the UK is not even in the top 15 countries. Hardly back up your claim. I accept that this blog has taken statistics and combined all the British dependencies to create a false claim but you are talking about the UK, not the Caymen Islands or Bermuda.

Given the source of the page i would question the impartiality of the piece as well.

 

'Is the UK turning into a tax haven?'

https://iea.org.uk/blog/is-the-uk-turning-a-tax-haven

This blog is 3 years old and supports your claim by the author suggesting ideas on how to enhance the UK tax system. No facts, no figures, just the writers opinion. This blog is then challenged in the comments using opinions which are different.

 

But then again if you look at the final sentence in the blog i think it kind of ruins your argument.

 

"But, for all the problems of the UK tax system, Britain is not a tax haven."

 

So the evidence you have given counters your own argument.

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