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18 hours ago, staninoodle said:

Could imagine the panic if all the idiots on the planet were in recipt of the facts

Such as...?

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So much for global warming. Its bloody freezing and hasnt stopped raining for two days. 

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43 minutes ago, Penistone999 said:

So much for global warming. Its bloody freezing and hasnt stopped raining for two days. 

<<golf clap>>

 

Good job there champ, good job.

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Did anyone see Dispatches last night? - although I usually record this type of programme, I don't include Dispatches, as it's so bad. I'm amazed this gets prime time slot. I would put it on at about 10am or 2pm type times, when tv generally shows this type of trash.

 

However, since this is a topic I'm interested in, I recorded it.  Usual sly anti-tory digs (I don't think it's 4 minutes in before it states that air pollution is 20x worse than it was 9 years ago - remind me, how long have the tories been in? usual loaded questions, poor logical arguments, hysteria invoking, ... last night was one of the worst efforts yet. The journalism in it has hit new lows.

 

The guy (and expert sent into the school) telling the kids in the school how they were being poisoned outside was dreadful. Don't call me a 'snowflake' until you have seen it.

 

then!! as if this wasn't bad enough, tell them [the kids], all the measures that they undertook (like walking) and basically cocooning the school... their lives would be 63.9% better (what?!), because 34.5micrgrammes of **** was removed from the air, and 94% of the 19% EU levels were 64% better since 0.05 of population had asthma  etc. etc. - even I couldn't keep up!

 

then cue: to the mother who was clapping at all the improvements, and how happy she was that her son hadn't been breathing in all this **** during the experiment...

 

Interviewer question to mother: so will you keep this up and not use the car then?

 

her answer: no

 

(ash at screen - ''no?! what was the bloody point then!'')

 

''it's the government that should do sumpfink'' is in there too somewhere.

 

WTF?!

 

(as the kids say)

 

 

 

Edited by *_ash_*

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4 minutes ago, zaci said:

One thing that was in the Dispatches programme, was showing how much emissions aren't from exhausts, but from brake dusts too.

 

They didn't go into this too much though.

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1 hour ago, *_ash_* said:

Did anyone see Dispatches last night? - although I usually record this type of programme, I don't include Dispatches, as it's so bad. I'm amazed this gets prime time slot. I would put it on at about 10am or 2pm type times, when tv generally shows this type of trash.

 

However, since this is a topic I'm interested in, I recorded it.  Usual sly anti-tory digs (I don't think it's 4 minutes in before it states that air pollution is 20x worse than it was 9 years ago - remind me, how long have the tories been in? usual loaded questions, poor logical arguments, hysteria invoking, ... last night was one of the worst efforts yet. The journalism in it has hit new lows.

 

The guy (and expert sent into the school) telling the kids in the school how they were being poisoned outside was dreadful. Don't call me a 'snowflake' until you have seen it.

 

then!! as if this wasn't bad enough, tell them [the kids], all the measures that they undertook (like walking) and basically cocooning the school... their lives would be 63.9% better (what?!), because 34.5micrgrammes of **** was removed from the air, and 94% of the 19% EU levels were 64% better since 0.05 of population had asthma  etc. etc. - even I couldn't keep up!

 

then cue: to the mother who was clapping at all the improvements, and how happy she was that her son hadn't been breathing in all this **** during the experiment...

 

Interviewer question to mother: so will you keep this up and not use the car then?

 

her answer: no

 

(ash at screen - ''no?! what was the bloody point then!'')

 

''it's the government that should do sumpfink'' is in there too somewhere.

 

WTF?!

 

(as the kids say)

 

 

 

How would you like  34.5 micrograms of cadmium per day? Just to name one cumulative poison.

 

Would you expect it to enhance your life? 

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8 hours ago, *_ash_* said:

 

 

Interviewer question to mother: so will you keep this up and not use the car then?

 

her answer: no

 

 

 

 

If they walk then they'll be exposed to even more pollution all along the walk won't they??

 

You're not going to get people out of their cars, the solution is developing non-polluting cars.

 

Even as things currently are humans are healthier and live longer than ever before in history, so a bit of perspective on things wouldn't go amiss here. 

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24 minutes ago, Dontquoteme said:

(...)

 

You're not going to get people out of their cars, the solution is developing non-polluting cars.

 

(...)

People are being financially engineered out of car ownership, just like they're being financially engineered out of home ownership.

 

In about 2 to 3 decades at the most, private car ownership will be back to being a luxury enjoyed by the few, and transportation by (less polluting-) car will be an always-on-anywhere commodity service (think "mass uberisation", with and without drivers).

 

The solution is free, punctual, safe and high-frequency public transport, hand-in-hand with cheap, always-on, short-notice-available self-driving private hire. I daresay that would take care of the very vast majority of people's daily transportation needs, regular and not.

Edited by L00b

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One question, @L00b - who's going to pay for all this 'free' transportation?

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1 hour ago, Halibut said:

I find that quite odd; I could see how having the windows open could be an issue but if the windows are closed I fail to see how significant pollution could get in. What about sitting on a bus? what about sitting in your house that is situated on a busy road? That piece just focus's on cars!

 

I take scientific studies with an agenda with a pinch of salt. 

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