Whatif wewin   10 #109 Posted June 11, 2006 what a truly ridiculous thing to say, did you actually read my post? The reason i 'brought' the IRA into it was to a draw a comparison between this time of apparently high terrorist threat and the last time the country faced a high level of terrorist activity. There is little to justify a different level of response as far as i'm aware, but this time we have emergency legislation, shoot to kill (innocent people apparently) policies, the loss of certain civil liberties, etc...  The question is a perfectly valid one, why are these response needed now if they were not needed the last time we faced a similar threat?  Edit - to add, Tony, I agree, I think that the police and the services do the best they can in the circumstances, it's mainly the politicians I don't trust and I see their responses to the situation in a very cynical light.  The threat today is not just explosive devices, but the likes of anthrax, chemical and viral weapons of unknown mass destruction. Not only to us but our children and their children. Terrorism has moved with the times, they can detonate remotely; they are willing to sacrifice their own lives. The IRA were not keen to do that. So sadly our security services have to act as best as they can, with seemingly undue speed in recent cases. They are for the main part young people doing their best to keep Britain safe, but they unfortunately, because of the very nature of this task, bound to make errors. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
pinky_786 Â Â 10 #110 Posted June 11, 2006 well well well, they were released WITHOUT charge! and i hope they sue the police! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
burny   10 #111 Posted June 16, 2006 Sorry but I had to dig this topic up... it appears that the solicitor was correct. No?!  How the thread changed! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Teabag   10 #112 Posted June 16, 2006 Sorry but I had to dig this topic up... it appears that the solicitor was correct. No?! How the thread changed!  Concur:thumbsup: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Halibut   12 #113 Posted June 16, 2006 And where are all the posters who insisted they were guilty as sin? Nowhere to be seen...what a surprise. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
anlabystreet   12 #114 Posted June 16, 2006 Can you update us on this thread please, anlabystreet?...yes i would love too...no evidence found..but that wasnt my point..my point was how did the lawyer make such sweeping statements about their innocence and how did she possibly know..she couldnt...at the time she wasnt privy to the full facts because the house was still being searched...and..on another separate note...isnt it strange that 38 grand was found in the house??more money than most people have at any one moment in their lifetime...if its legal why wasnt it in the bank..let me guess...is it anything to do with means tested benefit claims??...mmm i wonder ...no i know what it is...its cos it might have been a sunday and the banks werent open..just wondering thats all...no im not being cynical...just the experience of life Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
anlabystreet   12 #115 Posted June 16, 2006 and...i reckon dear old halibut should get out a bit more instead of spending his life on this forum...there is a world out there you know Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Halibut   12 #116 Posted June 16, 2006 and...i reckon dear old halibut should get out a bit more instead of spending his life on this forum...there is a world out there you know 'Dear old Halibut' has a very full and active life thankyou - of whach the forum plays only a small, but interesting part. Since when did having a bit of cash make a reasonable excuse for getting oneself shot? Talk about clutching at straws.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
anlabystreet   12 #117 Posted June 16, 2006 well here i am ...1 in the morning and ready to do some verbal sparring with halibut and his henchman teabag but no sign of either...i can only assume they have gone to bed early so they can get up early and be on the forum all day:loopy: thats teabag.... ..and thats his mate..heh heh Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
prioryx   10 #118 Posted June 17, 2006 we've had certain rightwing group members on here crowing about the police's success, in this case.. and yet there is no evidence against them, and they have been released without charge. It's horrendous, just like the De Menendes case in stockwell.  PT  Let's wait for all the screeming that would follow if the police ignore the next threat and sometihing does go off. The police in the NBC kit were there in case a chemical bomb was found so that the residents could be moved out quickly. Why is it always the security forces who take the flack. May be that the info was fed to them so that the extemists could see what the reaction would be and how they could counter act it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Alex C. Â Â 10 #119 Posted June 17, 2006 either way, the fact is that it only takes one terrorist 'getting lucky' to cause devastation and destruction - the security services have to be lucky every time. Â I'd much rather this situation than one in which we ignore tip offs unless the evidence is rock solid... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
TwoFour   10 #120 Posted June 20, 2006 my point was how did the lawyer make such sweeping statements about their innocence and how did she possibly know..she couldnt...at the time she wasnt privy to the full facts because the house was still being searched...and..on another separate note...isnt it strange that 38 grand was found in the house??more money than most people have at any one moment in their lifetime...if its legal why wasnt it in the bank..let me guess...is it anything to do with means tested benefit claims??...mmm i wonder ...no i know what it is...its cos it might have been a sunday and the banks werent open..just wondering thats all...no im not being cynical...just the experience of life  Anlabystreeet implies stitched up men are benefit frausters...how does she know?  I really can't believe you won't give this up. Admit it - you thought they were guilty and now you can't bear it that you were wrong. So much so that you STILL insist on casting aspersions against these innocent people. What is your problem, is it the race of them that you can't deal with? Now you imply they are benefit fraudsters...I have read that they were all hard working poeple with their own business and as several people lived in the house the money wasn't that much anyway between them. Anyway why am I defending them? There is nothing to defend. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...