The lawyer for the bomb suspects insists they are innocent..How does she know?

[Twiglet 10]

If these guys are so innocent, then why were they in the frame in the first place. Was a perfectly random selection made for an investigation lasting months. And a raid involving 250 coppers and hundreds more staff made purely on a whim.

Further more why did the guy start fighting with the police, steal a gun and fire off a shot? These are not the actions of innocent people mixed up in something they do not understand.

What amuses me is the report that the injured guy was in his 'pyjamas', as if he was in flanellette stripy things people wear in bed.

Pyjamas are the day to day street clothes of people who live in warmer climes, and are now to be seen in any city street, along with women dressed like The Ghost of Christmas Yet to Come.

 

Why was an innocent man under observation for weeks in London, before being followed and shot dead as he sat on the Tube? I'm not saying these guys didn't do it, they may have, they may not, it isn't for us to decide. I think everyone should wait until more information emerges and not jump to any conclusions.

[artisan 10]

Why was an innocent man under observation for weeks in London, before being followed and shot dead as he sat on the Tube? I'm not saying these guys didn't do it, they may have, they may not, it isn't for us to decide. I think everyone should wait until more information emerges and not jump to any conclusions.

He was living in the same block of flats as the guy they wanted, and bore an uncanny resmblance to him (get the pictures up and compare them).

In the coppers eyes he was behaving strangly that morning, getting on and off buses, visiting different tube stations etc. Then he suddenly ran across the platform for no reason and jumped a newly arrived train. Admittedly he paid a high price for queue jumping, but can anyone be sure he was not a decoy?

Dont forget he was not a dear little thing either. He was in the country illegally, having overstayed his visa or whatever. IMO his family should not have recieved a penny compo. They should have been given an Oscar for best performance however

[TwoFour 10]

....oh he's a dj ok...dysfunctional jerk!!!

 

good argument

[TwoFour 10]

well i personally think they are probably guilty

 

This has got to be the funniest post of the year. Look at the (your) title of the thread and then ask yourself why you bothered

[anlabystreet 12]

Eh?

 

What do you base that on?

 

The colour of their skin? The Sunday People?

 

Here we go again with the old chestnut.....if all else fails use a cliche thats been around for fifty years...i suggest before you make stupid comment you consider its just possible that i might think they are guilty because of all the police involvement but just for your information..i already stated further down this thread that nobody can help what colour they are or what they look like...and furthermore...i dont read the sunday people..what do you read ??...the sunday sport??

[Halibut 12]

Further more why did the guy start fighting with the police, steal a gun and fire off a shot? These are not the actions of innocent people mixed up in something they do not understand.

 

And your evidence for these assertions is? Were you there?

 

I think not.

[SHsheff 10]

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Oi! Empty your Inbox!

 

(Apologies to the thread)

[anlabystreet 12]

And your evidence for these assertions is? Were you there?

 

I think not.

no and the lawyer wasnt there either ..so wheres her evidence for the assertions

[Halibut 12]

no and the lawyer wasnt there either ..so wheres her evidence for the assertions

 

She wasn't but she's spoken to the two guys that were , which puts her in a rather more advantageous position than you to determine the truth of the matter.

I wouldn't mind betting that both of your assertions a) that there was a struggle and b) the even more improbable 'stole a gun and fired off a shot' turn out to be completely unfounded.

You can quote me on that and if I turn out to be wrong I'll accept it publicly here. If the guy who got shot had his hands on aweapon do you not think the Police would have found it by now. They were there at the scene. Perhaps the guy was a magician as well as an alleged terrorist?

[anlabystreet 12]

She wasn't but she's spoken to the two guys that were , which puts her in a rather more advantageous position than you to determine the truth of the matter.

I wouldn't mind betting that both of your assertions a) that there was a struggle and b) the even more improbable 'stole a gun and fired off a shot' turn out to be completely unfounded.

You can quote me on that and if I turn out to be wrong I'll accept it publicly here. If the guy who got shot had his hands on aweapon do you not think the Police would have found it by now. They were there at the scene. Perhaps the guy was a magician as well as an alleged terrorist?

i dont think just cos she has spoken to them puts her in any position closer to the truth..they might be a pair of liars ..i dont know,maybe they are innocent...but she doent know either...but she makes factual statements saying theyre innocent...and that was the whole point of this thread...it wasnt about innocence or guilt ..it was about her earning her unearned income...and furthermore ..i suggest you challenge the view and not the person

[artisan 10]

She wasn't but she's spoken to the two guys that were , which puts her in a rather more advantageous position than you to determine the truth of the matter.

I wouldn't mind betting that both of your assertions a) that there was a struggle and b) the even more improbable 'stole a gun and fired off a shot' turn out to be completely unfounded.

You can quote me on that and if I turn out to be wrong I'll accept it publicly here. If the guy who got shot had his hands on aweapon do you not think the Police would have found it by now. They were there at the scene. Perhaps the guy was a magician as well as an alleged terrorist?

In the commotion caused it was grappled from a coppers hand and fired, missed his target and shot the injured man. if you have ever been in a scuffle you will know these things happen in an instant.

[artisan 10]

If you came downstairs at first light and found your house full of policemen, would you start fighting with them? Of course not, so why did these guys, even to the point of pistols being fired.

Halibut, you will be fried on this one