Drivers on the Stocksbridge bypass

[Jeffrey Shaw 90]

This is a thread about the Stocksbridge Bypass, remember?

If you wish to discuss speed and driver failings, please start a new thread.

[Cyclone 10]

The speed limit is exactly that - it's not a target.

 

Just because it's legal to drive at that speed it doesn't mean you should.

 

Take into account all road conditions including weather and visibity.

 

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Speed kills.

 

Your reaction time isn't diminished, but the distance your vehicle travels is greater, and you're travelling with a greater momentum for the same distance.

 

Speed kills, QED

 

You know that QED means you demonstrated that something is true? Simply repeating an untrue thing and then throwing in an unrelated physics lesson doesn't prove anything though.

 

Jeffrey, this is sort of still about the SB.

Some people have asserted that the road isn't dangerous, other people have responded that they drive on that specific road at a speed well under the limit. The discussion moved on about whether those specific drivers are in fact dangerous.

[the fonz 10]

Speed is a major contributory factor in about a third of all road collisions, far more than any other single contributor to casualties on our roads.

 

Faster speeds will also greatly increases the severity of an accident when it happens.

 

As has been discussed on several over threads speed does kill.

 

Back on topic, on the Stocksbridge bypass, the location (before or after) a long length of road with limited passing places seems to decrease levels of patience and increase the levels of risk taking in an effort to make up lost time, or pass something which may hold you up.

[Cyclone 10]

The last time I checked it was listed as a MAJOR contributory factor in 5%, but a minor factor in many more.

 

The road design is clearly contributing to the number of accidents, if it didn't then it would have the same average rate of accidents as all other A roads.

[geared 318]

Back on topic, on the Stocksbridge bypass, the location (before or after) a long length of road with limited passing places seems to decrease levels of patience and increase the levels of risk taking in an effort to make up lost time, or pass something which may hold you up.

 

I think it's worth mentioning though that there was a passing place about 1/2 a mile from the crash spot (in both directions), so most drivers would have been given the opportunity to pass slow vehicles.

[the fonz 10]

I think it's worth mentioning though that there was a passing place about 1/2 a mile from the crash spot (in both directions), so most drivers would have been given the opportunity to pass slow vehicles.

 

I didnt realise they were so close tbh.

 

This morning for example there was a queue of traffic in the overtaking lane desperate to overtake a lorry before the fox valley turn, which then had to break to let everyone in before the lanes merged.

[geared 318]

Yea the crash was just after that roundabout.

 

To be fair the overtaking lane isn't very long, and all it takes is one driver like Padders and you'll only see a car or two able to safely overtake the HGV in the short space they've got.

[ANGELFIRE1 10]

You know that QED means you demonstrated that something is true? Simply repeating an untrue thing and then throwing in an unrelated physics lesson doesn't prove anything though.

 

Jeffrey, this is sort of still about the SB.

Some people have asserted that the road isn't dangerous, other people have responded that they drive on that specific road at a speed well under the limit. The discussion moved on about whether those specific drivers are in fact dangerous.

 

 

I have to agree, its all linked together isn't it?. It's nigh on impossible to post about a "dangerous" road without discussing the traffic that uses it.

 

Angel1.

[Penistone999 10]

I didnt realise they were so close tbh.

 

This morning for example there was a queue of traffic in the overtaking lane desperate to overtake a lorry before the fox valley turn, which then had to break to let everyone in before the lanes merged.

 

The by pass should have been a duel carriageway from Tankersley right up to the Underbank when it was built.

 

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I didnt realise they were so close tbh.

 

This morning for example there was a queue of traffic in the overtaking lane desperate to overtake a lorry before the fox valley turn, which then had to break to let everyone in before the lanes merged.

 

Its the same coming over the Woodhead . HGV`s abd coach`s should be banned from using the Woodhead and made to use the M62 and M1.

[geared 318]

or we could get the motorway link we've been promised for so long??

 

Most recently it was a tunnel across the Peaks, all talk and no action as everyone expected.

[Penistone999 10]

or we could get the motorway link we've been promised for so long??

 

Most recently it was a tunnel across the Peaks, all talk and no action as everyone expected.

 

Cant see the Mottram by pass ever being built . If it was in the south east it would have been done decades ago.

[Blue Day 10]

The by pass should have been a duel carriageway from Tankersley right up to the Underbank when it was built.

 

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Its the same coming over the Woodhead . HGV`s abd coach`s should be banned from using the Woodhead and made to use the M62 and M1.

 

lol. Yeh let’s force lorries and coaches to do extra unwarranted mileage just so car drivers can cross the woodhead 10 minutes quicker