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15 minutes ago, jem said:

cuz city council said they decided to spend £500,000 to deliver 20 rapid charge points for ultra-low emission taxi in and around city centre so based on this decision i was wondering does anything started to change ?

https://sheffieldnewsroom.co.uk/news/rapid-charge-points/ this is what government said to encourage taxi drivers using low-emission cars

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-46196519 this is the proposal that they want to fine high-pollution vehicles

That is £25.000 per charge point, not bad a domestic charge point costs less than £2000. These charge points are subsidised and council has to make sure the installer doesn't put that subsidy in its own pocket.

Diesel will be finished this century no matter if that happens through a state of ignorance or through some wisdom insight.

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Judging by sales figures and manufacturers attitudes it's already on it's knees for passenger vehicle use.

 

For HGV's and other large vehicles there's nothing that can match it yet, but if it's use is limited to a minority of road vehicles the effect will be dramatic.

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2 hours ago, geared said:

Judging by sales figures and manufacturers attitudes it's already on it's knees for passenger vehicle use.

 

For HGV's and other large vehicles there's nothing that can match it yet, but if it's use is limited to a minority of road vehicles the effect will be dramatic.

That's not a bad idea at all. There are some vehicles that we truly rely on, namely emergency vehicles and trucks and trains. Buses could also be included if they were to reduce the amount of fuel driven cars on the road. There are some that would argue cycling is an answer, but not everyone is capable of that, but it would reduce the emissions even further if those who were fit enough were to do. 

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21 hours ago, How Ark said:

Pollution levels high again in Sheffield.  Unhealthy at the moment.

 

http://aqicn.org/city/united-kingdom/sheffield-devonshire-green/

 

 

that's real scary stuff!...I don't usually have breathing problems but was struggling yesterday I guess this explains why. Doctors are going to be very busy.

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All the fog and stuff probably keeps the air pollution contained instead of dispersing it.

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On 24/02/2019 at 12:36, How Ark said:

Pollution levels high again in Sheffield.  Unhealthy at the moment.

 

http://aqicn.org/city/united-kingdom/sheffield-devonshire-green/

 

 

Actually thats air quality at one particular measuring point. The bigger picture for Sheffield is here:

 

https://uk-air.defra.gov.uk/forecasting/locations?q=sheffield&day=1#map_summary

 

Air polution is currently low to moderate.

 

Edited by flantastico

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29 minutes ago, flantastico said:

 

Actually thats air quality at one particular measuring point. The bigger picture is here:

 

https://uk-air.defra.gov.uk/forecasting/locations?q=sheffield&day=1#map_summary

 

Air polution is currently low to moderate.

 

An independent network of particulate monitors is currently being assembled to cover Sheffield.  You can look at real-time values for this here:

http://deutschland.maps.luftdaten.info/#11/53.3916/-1.5132

The values yesterday were exceptionally high for the whole of the areas of Sheffield currently monitored.

 

There is a Facebook group where these issues are discussed.  If you're interested you could ask there to install your own monitor (cost about £30) .

https://m.facebook.com/groups/1836920213190989

Edited by c00kie
Posted Facebook link.

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Doesn't the city already have a network of air monitoring stations?

 

Why is an independent network required?  Does the Defra site not give actual numbers on air quality?

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19 minutes ago, geared said:

Doesn't the city already have a network of air monitoring stations?

 

Why is an independent network required?  Does the Defra site not give actual numbers on air quality?

The Defra site linked to above gives a pollution forecast produced by the Met Office.  The limited number of official pollution monitors in Sheffield is described here under "Measuring Pollution": https://www.sheffield.gov.uk/home/pollution-nuisance/air-quality.html

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There's a good number of diffusion tubes on that map in the link, will the ones from the new scheme also go in there??

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54 minutes ago, geared said:

There's a good number of diffusion tubes on that map in the link, will the ones from the new scheme also go in there??

As the SCC site mentions, many of these diffusion tubes (which are principally monitoring NO2 levels rather than particulates) have themselves been installed by independent community groups.  One issue with them is that they only provide long-term averages of the pollutant level, so they don't necessarily show the level to which e.g. kids walking to school are regularly exposed.  (The particulate monitor map I linked to above is a real-time one).

There is a project at the University of Sheffield (with which this particulate project is affiliated) to develop in a few months devices that monitor in real-time all the major pollutants (particulates, NO2, ozone...) .  They're likely to cost about £100 as I understand it.

There are people with far greater expertise than me on these matters on the facebook site I linked to above.

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