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8 minutes ago, I1L2T3 said:

No campaign or political party campaigned for that at referendum time.

Indeed, quite the opposite, any notion of no-deal was decryed as "project fear", quickly followed up by "they need us more than we need them" & "easiest trade deal ever" soundbites.

 

No deal is utterly unacceptable to the majority of the population.

 

 

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2 minutes ago, I1L2T3 said:

 

No campaign or political party campaigned for that at referendum time.

I refer you to my previous post. A no deal scenario was an obvious outcome if the democratic people voted to leave the EU. It is irrelevant to the democratic process that no political party campaigned for a no deal.

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16 minutes ago, Car Boot said:

I actually think there's more chance of the UK leaving the EU under a Corbyn led government than under a May (Tory) one.

 

 

That could be true. Lets hope we never have to find that out

Just now, Lockdoctor said:

I refer you to my previous post. A no deal scenario was an obvious outcome if the democratic people voted to leave the EU. It is irrelevant to the democratic process that no political party campaigned for a no deal.

No it wasn’t obvious. Nobody officially campaigned for it and it has never been the official policy of any party.

 

There is no mandate for it

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2 hours ago, Lockdoctor said:

Of course  you can't  unless you want to be the World's laughing stock.

 

Your best post ever.

 

 

Going back to my original analogy regarding a retrial where new evidence comes to light,one of the reasons for abolishing the death penalty was that mistakes were made which could not be righted.

So a second referendum,preferably before any enactment of the 2016 one,would give us all the opportunity to examine the facts and probabilities,before the trap door opens.

We might confirm or change our opinions.

Being judicious is no reason to be a laughing stock to anyone.

 

If this is not worthy of your reply,just don’t bother.

 

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50 minutes ago, I1L2T3 said:

 

No it wasn’t obvious. Nobody officially campaigned for it and it has never been the official policy of any party.

 

There is no mandate for it

Already agreed with you that nobody or political party  officially campaigned for a  no deal.  The fact is a no deal  is a obvious  scenario of the democratic UK people voting to leave the EU.

 

There is a mandate for the UK leaving the EU without a deal because the democratic people voted in the 2016 EU referendum to leave the EU.

 

14 minutes ago, RJRB said:

Going back to my original analogy regarding a retrial where new evidence comes to light,one of the reasons for abolishing the death penalty was that mistakes were made which could not be righted.

So a second referendum,preferably before any enactment of the 2016 one,would give us all the opportunity to examine the facts and probabilities,before the trap door opens.

We might confirm or change our opinions.

Being judicious is no reason to be a laughing stock to anyone.

 

If this is not worthy of your reply,just don’t bother.

 

You still haven't redeemed yourself.  Your latest post  is not worthy of a reply.

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51 minutes ago, Magilla said:

No deal is utterly unacceptable to the majority of the population.

Although you may think that it cant be true as all the population has never been asked as its an impossible task for obvious reasons.

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1 hour ago, hobinfoot said:

Why do tariffs need to be used between us and the EU anyway?

its the eu way of punishing the uk we dont need to implement them just carry on as we are. if we keep to the regulations of manufactoring  standards as we are now no need for tariffs but who is trying to tell us different ? let me tell you the eu :nono:  

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1 minute ago, ricgem2002 said:

its the eu way of punishing the uk we dont need to implement them just carry on as we are. if we keep to the regulations of manufactoring  standards as we are now no need for tariffs but who is trying to tell us different ? let me tell you the eu :nono:  

In short, the EU is fully aware that the UK is a good economic region and they exploit this to shore up other countries that aren't doing so well. This sounds good in principle but when you look at our grass roots problems, mainly the NHS it seems only right and proper to channel the UK's wealth into that. When we leave the EU in March, we will be able to dictate our own charitable payments to overseas countries, at a level that we can afford without putting our own services in hardship.

Although trying to explain this to a remainers is like wading through treacle.

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18 minutes ago, apelike said:

Although you may think that it cant be true as all the population has never been asked as its an impossible task for obvious reasons.

Do you not suspect it might be a massive risk trying it out.

 

It won’t get through Parliament anyway. Not a hope.

4 minutes ago, BrexitGuy said:

In short, the EU is fully aware that the UK is a good economic region and they exploit this to shore up other countries that aren't doing so well. This sounds good in principle but when you look at our grass roots problems, mainly the NHS it seems only right and proper to channel the UK's wealth into that. When we leave the EU in March, we will be able to dictate our own charitable payments to overseas countries, at a level that we can afford without putting our own services in hardship.

Although trying to explain this to a remainers is like wading through treacle.

In what way do they exploit us, and how much does it cost us?

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1 minute ago, I1L2T3 said:

Do you not suspect it might be a massive risk trying it out.

 

It won’t get through Parliament anyway. Not a hope.

In what way do they exploit us, and how much does it cost us?

Payments to the EU for a start. The UK is the third largest contributer to the EU budget, and pound for pound gets LESS back than paid in.  Thats exploiting the UK monetary stance in the world. 

But surely as an expert on the EU, you knew this?

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37 minutes ago, BrexitGuy said:

Payments to the EU for a start. The UK is the third largest contributer to the EU budget, and pound for pound gets LESS back than paid in.  Thats exploiting the UK monetary stance in the world. 

But surely as an expert on the EU, you knew this?

The UK are the third largest contributor to the EU budget which wouldn't be an issue ,if the UK was the third biggest EU exporter to other EU countries. Germany are the largest contributor to the EU budget  and are by far the largest EU exporter to the other EU countries.  The difference between the UK and Germany is that the UK are an import nation and Germany are an export nation and that is why membership of the EU is great for Germany and no so great for the UK.

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4 hours ago, Cyclone said:

Your post isn't worthy of a reply.

Er, you just replied.......

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