The Consequences of Brexit [part 5] Read 1st post before posting

[L00b 441]

The answer is obvious, simply re-name rain as "atmospheric water drops", job done!

That’s called “dedramatisation” nowadays

[Penistone999 10]

Gove (or Corbin/Labour even) can say or want whatever they want: there’s nothing to renegotiate.

 

I told you yesterday on the thread, and the EU27 have since confirmed in the clear per this morning’s news.

 

Your choices are: the withdrawal agreement, no deal, or remain. End of.

 

Choose wisely.

 

As for the guff about sovereignty (again ), the delicious irony is that the projected consequences of this deal, turning the U.K. from an EU rule-maker (and veto-er) to an EU rule-taker, confirm exactly what we remainers (and the Courts, later) had been saying all along: that the U.K. was sovereign as an EU member state.

 

No Deal is the only option ,and that suits me fine.

 

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Indeed, and you've been shown, time and time again.. why you are completely wrong on that.

 

That you have utterly failed to read & then comprehend the issues, even now, speaks volumes.

 

 

 

Of course, total nonsense, a pure delusion and disconnect from reality.

 

The NI border and maintenance of the peace agreement are paramount.

 

 

No its not , its holding us back . Its time to push NI under the bus and get a hard Brexit.

 

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You don’t seem to understand the EU ratification procedure for the withdrawal agreement: all 28 Member States need to vote it through. Not just Parliament and Brussels.

 

Your time is up. EUCO is meeting on 25 November to sign it off. Either May (or her replacement) attends to sign, and signs, on behalf of the U.K. And then the ratification procedure begins (and you want to hope it all gets done in time by 29 March 2019).

 

Or it’s no deal. And they’re better prepared for it than the U.K.

 

The EU27 are long past, and tired of, ‘Brexit’. They’ve moved on to other, newer issues on their collective plates. Don’t take my word for it, take that of most highly-experienced, -connected and -respected political commentators like Adler, Islam, etc or better, that of EU heads of state like Merkel, Macron & Sanchez: there is ZERO intention amongst the EU27 to renegotiate anything.

 

May knows it. As does Gove. Even Corbyn I’m sure.

 

You can stay. Or you can divorce. If you divorce, that’s the deal. If you want one. The end.

 

There wont be anything to sign because May`s "Surrender" deal wont ever get through the commons.

 

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The biggest danger here is that communist Corbyn gets into power.

[Top Cats Hat 10]

 

There wont be anything to sign because May`s "Surrender" deal wont ever get through the commons.

 

You do know that is really bad news for Brextremists don't you?

 

No deal has no support among MPs, the public at large and the EU, so it won't happen. If May's deal falls and the EU says that no further negotiation will be done. it then becomes a choice between remaining in the EU or no deal at all.

 

What do you think the people will choose?

[Magilla 510]

No its not , its holding us back . Its time to push NI under the bus and get a hard Brexit.

 

Cool, goodbye the United Kingdom and even the whiff of "Great" Britain

[tzijlstra 11]

No its not , its holding us back . Its time to push NI under the bus and get a hard Brexit.

 

Which bus? To do that, you need an agreement.

 

You are still approaching this whole thing like you are negotiating with an illicit cigarette dealer over how much you're prepared to pay for your Sterling Silvers.

[altus 533]

Cool, goodbye the United Kingdom and even the whiff of "Great" Britain

I'm not sure why he thinks the Conservative and Unionist Party would do such a thing.

[L00b 441]

Which bus? To do that, you need an agreement.

 

You are still approaching this whole thing like you are negotiating with an illicit cigarette dealer over how much you're prepared to pay for your Sterling Silvers.

Tbh, the UK itself has approached the whole “negotiation with the EU” thing, like a drunk trying to haggle with the automatic checkout at Tesco.

[whiteowl 54]

Which bus? To do that, you need an agreement.

 

You are still approaching this whole thing like you are negotiating with an illicit cigarette dealer over how much you're prepared to pay for your Sterling Silvers.

 

Presumably the one with the £350 million for the NHS written on the side

[Top Cats Hat 10]

 

Its time to push NI under the bus and get a hard Brexit.

 

 

Sounds like a great idea.

 

A hard border in Ireland will re-ignite the 'Troubles'. This leads to a border poll which in turn leads to a United Ireland. This solves the Irish border question (and at the same time satisfies the democratic wishes of the people of Northern Ireland to remain in the UK.)

 

This reinvigorates the SNP and sets the ball rolling for a second independence referendum. Scotland leaves the UK and rejoins the EU. The British government now has the problem of another land border with an EU state and agrees to an incredibly beneficial trade agreement with Scotland. Now Wales is really feeling like a vassal state of England's and Plaid Cymru grows and starts to make demands for its own referendum.

 

By this stage, the 'what is left of the' UK economy has tanked and sterling is through the floor so Wales has no option but to leave the Union and rejoin the EU. The hard border between the Gibralter and Spain has knackered Gibralter's tourism industry and it agrees to become a territory of Spain with its own regional government thus fulfilling the democratic wishes of its people to remain in the EU.

 

By this stage the blue passport can be any colour the English choose it to be as they will be the only people having one.

[Magilla 510]

Police Warn No-Deal Brexit Could Cause ‘Widescale Disruption And Dangers For The Public’:

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/police-brexit-warning-no-deal_uk_5bee9581e4b0510a1f2fa7fa?r2s&utm_hp_ref=uk-homepage

[Lockdoctor 10]

More nonsense. This agreement is what the EU and the U.K. negotiation teams, as respectively instructed and empowered, have eventually arrived at.

 

“The EU” hasn’t agreed to it either: it’s still got to run the gauntlet of the EU Parliament, just the same as it’s still got to run the gauntlet of the UK Parliament.

 

Then it has to run the gauntlets of another 30-odd democratic assemblies across the EU27. As already explained to you earlier.

 

So much democracy, you must be revelling, no?

Not really: it’s statements of EU27 heads of state and EU representatives, reported and published today.

 

You don’t keep up with the news?

That's fair enough if you are so naive to genuinely believe such mafia style bluster. I interpreted the comments as nothing more than baleful rhetoric from unpopular national leaders belonging to countries with an inferiority complex.

 

A change of UK Prime Minister will result in the key contentious issue being renegotiated or amended for any chance a withdrawal agreement being ratified by the UK.

 

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Police Warn No-Deal Brexit Could Cause ‘Widescale Disruption And Dangers For The Public’:

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/police-brexit-warning-no-deal_uk_5bee9581e4b0510a1f2fa7fa?r2s&utm_hp_ref=uk-homepage

scaremongering

[Top Cats Hat 10]

 

A change of UK Prime Minister will result in the key contentious issue being renegotiated or amended

 

Renegotiated with who?

 

The EU has just announced that the withdrawal discussions are closed and the matter is now a domestic issue for the UK government.

 

The Chequers deal is as good as it's going to get. It's either that or remain.

 

Nobody but a handful of cranks and extremists want a no deal exit.