The Consequences of Brexit [part 5] Read 1st post before posting

[Car Boot 10]

What like in Germany - oh hold on, DB is owned by the state

And in France with SNCF - oh hold on, that is state owned...

 

CarBoot, yet again the facts destroy your argument.

 

You've obviously never heard of the Fourth Railway Package, an EU obssession to bring the 'benefits' of the single market to Rail - making the rail sector more 'competitive' by turning a state governed organisation into a private company, which then tenders bids for contracts.

 

No to Thatcher's Single Market. No to the 'four freedom's for Business.

[altus 540]

Of course not.

 

Theresa May wants to confine the UK to the EU, which would prevent the public ownership of Water, Rail and the Royal Mail.

 

Insight: Europe's utilities squeezed by creeping nationalization

 

Jeremy Corbyn’s nationalisation policies are grounded in cold, hard economic sense. Europe proves it

[tinfoilhat 11]

Of course not.

 

Theresa May wants to confine the UK to the EU, which would prevent the public ownership of Water, Rail and the Royal Mail.

 

So, to review, when we leave the eu we are going to nationalise everything but the conservatives aren't going to do it, despite them being in government.

 

Have you had a bump on the head?

[Top Cats Hat 10]

What like in Germany - oh hold on, DB is owned by the state

And in France with SNCF - oh hold on, that is state owned...

 

CarBoot, yet again the facts destroy your argument.

 

Hang on, let's be fair to Car Boot. You have only mentioned the state owned companies.

 

 

What about

 

La Poste in France?

Or Electricitè de France?

ABN AMRO bank in the Netherlands?

Or Schiphol Airport?

OGP Gaz in Poland?

LOT Polish Airlines?

RENFE freight and railways in Spain?

Sociedad Estatal de Correos in Spain?

NAV Portugal air traffic control services?

Polska Energia in Poland?

S.p.A Motorways in Italy?

Ferrovie is dello Stato Italiane in Italy?

ÖBB Austrian Railways?

Liège Airport in Belgium?

Belgian Broadcasting in Brussels?

České drahy Czech Railways?

PostNord in Denmark?

Energiser.dk in Denmark?

Télévisions Française in France?

Danish Railways?

KfW Bank in Germany?

ENAV Italian air traffic control services?

Nederlandse Spoorwegen Dutch Railways?

Comboios de Portugal, Portugueses Railways?

The Lisbon Metro system?

STCP Potuguese Buses?

 

Surely all those EU based public utilities and infrastructure companies must be in private ownership.

 

Aren't they?

[I1L2T3 10]

So, to review, when we leave the eu we are going to nationalise everything but the conservatives aren't going to do it, despite them being in government.

 

Have you had a bump on the head?

 

I think half the Labour Party has had a bump to the head

 

Their master plan seems to be:

 

1. Let the Tories take us out the EU

2. Economy tanks

3. Government collapsed

4. Labour wins GE

5. Nationalise everything in sight

 

They haven’t realised that is the economy does collapse then the electorate will be just as unforgiving to Labour as they will to the Tories.

 

Labour’s plan is to offer no opposition, let the Tories harm the country, then step in to clear up the mess with some hare brained extreme social democratic experiment.

 

Both parties have lost the plot utterly

[tinfoilhat 11]

I think half the Labour Party has had a bump to the head

 

Their master plan seems to be:

 

1. Let the Tories take us out the EU

2. Economy tanks

3. Government collapsed

4. Labour wins GE

5. Nationalise everything in sight

 

They haven’t realised that is the economy does collapse then the electorate will be just as unforgiving to Labour as they will to the Tories.

 

Labour’s plan is to offer no opposition, let the Tories harm the country, then step in to clear up the mess with some hare brained extreme social democratic experiment.

 

Both parties have lost the plot utterly

 

Didn't corbs want us in the single market though? Can we jump back in if we get a no-deal?

[Penistone999 10]

Plane won't fly unless the treaties are sorted out.

Trains are already not running due to austerity which will only get worse after a Brexit

There won't be loads for the lorries to deliver as the crops will be rotting in the fields due to a lack of workers to pick it.

Remainers won't be able to afford going to Europe as the pound will have gone further south - perhaps even below parity.

 

I have faith in the democratic principles of the UK allowing the electorate a chance to speak again - despite the undemocratic rhetoric being supported by beleavers on here.

 

Oh no, the world is going to end :hihi:

 

Armageddon is coming.

 

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Hang on, let's be fair to Car Boot. You have only mentioned the state owned companies.

 

 

What about

 

La Poste in France?

Or Electricitè de France?

ABN AMRO bank in the Netherlands?

Or Schiphol Airport?

OGP Gaz in Poland?

LOT Polish Airlines?

RENFE freight and railways in Spain?

Sociedad Estatal de Correos in Spain?

NAV Portugal air traffic control services?

Polska Energia in Poland?

S.p.A Motorways in Italy?

Ferrovie is dello Stato Italiane in Italy?

ÖBB Austrian Railways?

Liège Airport in Belgium?

Belgian Broadcasting in Brussels?

České drahy Czech Railways?

PostNord in Denmark?

Energiser.dk in Denmark?

Télévisions Française in France?

Danish Railways?

KfW Bank in Germany?

ENAV Italian air traffic control services?

Nederlandse Spoorwegen Dutch Railways?

Comboios de Portugal, Portugueses Railways?

The Lisbon Metro system?

STCP Potuguese Buses?

 

Surely all those EU based public utilities and infrastructure companies must be in private ownership.

 

Aren't they?

 

What about them , they arnt our problem .

[Top Cats Hat 10]

 

What about them , they arnt our problem .

 

Your pal Car Boot is trying to claim that after Brexit, Teresa Mayhem will be able to renationalise our key industries and would have done so sooner if the big bad EU hadn't forced all its members to privatise everything.

 

That list is just a fraction of key state owned industries throughout Europe.

 

Our key service and infrastructure industries are not in private hands because the EU made us do it, but because since 1979, the British people have voted for governments who put the interests of business before those of the people and have sold us the idea off a share owning democracy.

 

The rest of Europe however seems to value these industries remaining in public ownership.

[ez8004 10]

Between Scotland and Northern Ireland, which one would you prefer to lose? Depending on the type of Brexit we have, we are likely to lose one from the Union. If the government plays this badly, we could lose both as the arguments for a border poll in Northern Ireland will only get stronger.

[Top Cats Hat 10]

Between Scotland and Northern Ireland, which one would you prefer to lose? Depending on the type of Brexit we have, we are likely to lose one from the Union.

 

It has to be Northern Ireland.

 

Since 1918 the overwhelming majority of Irish people have supported a united Ireland. Even in the North now there could be a majority in favour of a united Ireland and Sinn Fèin are one seat and a few thousand votes from being the largest party there, which would have been unthinkable thirty years ago. If the UK is serious about leaving the EU then the North has to go. It will also ensure a lasting peace.

 

With Scotland, that is up to the people who live there.

[Lockdoctor 10]

It has to be Northern Ireland.

 

Since 1918 the overwhelming majority of Irish people have supported a united Ireland. Even in the North now there could be a majority in favour of a united Ireland and Sinn Fèin are one seat and a few thousand votes from being the largest party there, which would have been unthinkable thirty years ago. If the UK is serious about leaving the EU then the North has to go. It will also ensure a lasting peace.

 

With Scotland, that is up to the people who live there.

It's hardly surprising the overwhelming majority of Irish people support a united Ireland given the fact the The Republic of Ireland's population is about three times the population of Northern Ireland. The result of the democratic EU referendum give both Sinn Fèin and the SNP good excuses to lobby for their respective causes. In my opinion there is more chance Ireland will leave the EU than the UK losing either Northern Ireland or Scotland anytime soon.

[Top Cats Hat 10]

In my opinion there is more chance Ireland will leave the EU than the UK losing either Northern Ireland or Scotland anytime soon.

 

Are you back on the drugs again?

 

Ireland has been one of the most Euroenthusiastic of all the EU members and pre EU, had a third world economy on a par with Portugal before they joined.

 

On the other hand, a united, independent Ireland is closer than it has been for 800 years!