The Consequences of Brexit [part 5] Read 1st post before posting

[Halibut 12]

2 minutes ago, Car Boot said:

The EU is...

You still haven't said what's good about Brexit.

[Car Boot 10]

6 minutes ago, Halibut said:

You still haven't said what's good about Brexit.

The very best thing about Brexit is that it's a national liberation movement that puts people before profit.

 

Remember folks, EU fiscal discipline is NOT applied uniformly to all members of the Eurozone.

 

There is nothing fair about the EU.

Edited December 21, 2018 by Car Boot

[Halibut 12]

Just now, Car Boot said:

The very best thing about Brexit is that it's a national liberation movement that puts people before profit.

How will recession, job losses, restricted movement and food shortages benefit the people exactly?

[BrexitGuy 0]

2 minutes ago, Halibut said:

How will recession, job losses, restricted movement and food shortages benefit the people exactly?

It hasn't bothered us up to now.

[Car Boot 10]

5 minutes ago, Halibut said:

How will recession, job losses, restricted movement and food shortages benefit the people exactly?

What recession? 

The Employment sector is booming, with very low unemployment and wages rising.

We have no restricted movement or food shortages.

 

You can obviously see into the future, or are you just repeating government scenarios which have a terrible record of actually happening and quickly become discredited?

 

Do you have anything original to say?

Edited December 21, 2018 by Car Boot

[Halibut 12]

1 minute ago, BrexitGuy said:

It hasn't bothered us up to now.

What an absurd answer. Are you saying that Brexit won't have these effects, or that it will and you don't care?

[BrexitGuy 0]

1 minute ago, Halibut said:

What an absurd answer. Are you saying that Brexit won't have these effects, or that it will and you don't care?

Not at all. It's the typical scaremongering of a remoaner.

Did you know that Britain has the highest tourist footfall in Spain and last year we spent 1.88 Billion pounds on their shores?

Can you see Spain allowing some kind of embargo on British visitors after Brexit??

Your a bigger fool than you appear if you think that the Europeans will put up with that.

 

 

6 minutes ago, Car Boot said:

What recession? 

The Employment sector is booming, with very low unemployment and wages rising.

We have no restricted movement or food shortages.

 

You can obviously see into the future, or are you just repeating government scenarios which have a terrible record of actually happening and quickly become discredited?

 

Do you have anything original to say?

You may be banging your head upon a brick wall here....

[Halibut 12]

8 minutes ago, BrexitGuy said:

Not at all. It's the typical scaremongering of a remoaner.

Did you know that Britain has the highest tourist footfall in Spain and last year we spent 1.88 Billion pounds on their shores?

Can you see Spain allowing some kind of embargo on British visitors after Brexit??

Your a bigger fool than you appear if you think that the Europeans will put up with that.

 

 

You're going to end up on the wrong side of history. I'll be mercilessly reminding you when you do.

[Car Boot 10]

There are about 900,000 British ex-pats living in the EU.

I've just read that there are 1.3 million British people living in Australia.

How this has happened without the EU's FOM I simply can't comprehend!

[BrexitGuy 0]

Just now, Halibut said:

You're going to end up on the wrong side of history. I'll be mercilessly reminding you when you do.

What an absurd answer!!

Rather than agree with me (and judging by the time it took you to respond, you've obviously seen what we spend in Europe and are really angry with yourself for not spotting this) you would rather play the "I Think I'm Clever" answer.

Note; you are not.

Too many lies from the remain camp about Brexit. What you fail to realise is that European countries will not allow Brussels to treat the UK as criminals after Brexit. They will not jeopardize their businesses to appease the EU,s stance on how it will treat us. There won't be food shortages nor in the mind of a typical remoaner will there be a tornado over Dewsbury.

You are talking utter nonsense. 

[L00b 441]

56 minutes ago, Car Boot said:

The EU is absolutely enforcing austerity on Italy.

 

The democratically elected coalition government want to introduce a mild pro-growth budget which includes a basic income for the poorest people (over 5 million in Italy live in absolute poverty). But fiscal discipline, not people, is what is important to the EU.  So the non-elected EU threatened the elected Italian government with an Excessive Deficit Procedure which could have led to a fine of about €9 billion if it did not capitulate.

 

The coalition government wants to spend to stimulate growth in the economy, boosting consumption and employment, as EU austerity measures have failed - creating terrible poverty without cutting the national debt.

 

So basically austerity, which hasn't cut debt, is being used to placate the markets. The EU, as always, puts the markets before people. 

 

https://euobserver.com/opinion/143593

The EU isn't enforcing austerity: the EU is enforcing the fiscal pact which Italy signed up to, of its own free will.

 

The austerity is a by-product of successive Italian governments' fiscal policies lacking in prudentiality. Same in Greece yesteryear, same in the UK, France, Spain <etc> still.

 

There is an easy (enough) solution available to Italy, if it so wishes to pursue fiscal policies putting its solvability at risk: it is free to exit the €uro and go back to the Lira. Same as Greece was with the Drachma yesteryear.

 

The fact that the very vast majority of Italian national debt is held in Italian hands, whence a reversion to the Lira would be so severe a haircut to bondholders, that the average Italian would have no head left, is for the Italian government to consider in its deliberations.

 

Perhaps that fact influenced their decision to stick with the €uro some weeks back. But since that's what the democratically elected coalition government decided, then the fiscal pact with the Eurozone stands, as do its rules.

 

Still can't have your cake and eating it in this day and age I'm afraid, no more than anyone ever could.

Edited December 21, 2018 by L00b

[L00b 441]

15 minutes ago, Car Boot said:

There are about 900,000 British ex-pats living in the EU.

I've just read that there are 1.3 million British people living in Australia.

How this has happened without the EU's FOM I simply can't comprehend!

They're not British expats, they're British immigrants.

 

And the UK government deliberately abandoned them to their fate this week. Yes, that's British citizens. Trap-doored by Theresa May and Javid. Hard to think, when the UK went so far at to wage war on Argentina over the Falklanders.

 

As for your lack of comprehension about Oz, only a foreigner unfamilar with British and Commonwealth history couldn't comprehend. Perhaps ask your GRU handler for a summary?

 

 

Edited December 21, 2018 by L00b