The Consequences of Brexit [part 5] Read 1st post before posting

[truman 10]

1 minute ago, Lockdoctor said:

All you're doing is embarrassing yourself  and adding more evidence for me and any reasonable poster to conclude that you  only respect any form of democracy or vote, if the result is to your own personal liking.  Do you  think Nicola Sturgeon and the SNP would agree to another Scottish Independent where it required two thirds  of people voting Yes to Scottish Independence for the result of the referendum to be implicated?

That's because she has a vested interest in the result..the clue is in her party's name..

[Magilla 510]

30 minutes ago, Lockdoctor said:

All you're doing is embarrassing yourself

Really, doesn't look that way, I at least know what we're actually discussing

 

I say that had the referendum recieved a 2/3rd marjority the country could, rightly, be said to be united. It didn't, so it isn't.

 

Hence my Swiss reference! D'oh!

 

That you're unable to fathom that, is what's really embarrassing here

 

However, none of this would have made any difference to any future deal with the EU, as was always the case, you can't have your cake and eat it.

 

 

30 minutes ago, Lockdoctor said:

Do you  think Nicola Sturgeon and the SNP would agree to another Scottish Independence Referendum where it required two thirds  of people voting Yes to Scottish Independence for the result of the referendum to be implicated?

Which of course, has no bearing on any statement I've made *at all*. It's not about what  Nicola Sturgeon might want

 

Edited November 28, 2018 by Magilla

[Guest]

Quick question,  when will exactly May's deal go through vote for the parliamentary approval? I don't get, does she have majority or not? If not, that's "hard Brexit", right?

[nightrider 13]

10 minutes ago, croat77 said:

Quick question,  when will exactly May's deal go through vote for the parliamentary approval? I don't get, does she have majority or not? If not, that's "hard Brexit", right?

Dec 11, with 5 days of debate first.

 

If it does not go through then unless something else happens, yes its hard brexit with no deal. Labour have just said they will ask for a GE in these circumstances, and if that is not possible then they would ask for a referendum on what to do next.  Other options would be to revoke Article 50 (it is now confirmed this is possible due to the recent court case about that). Not sure if there are any other options or not to avoid no deal brexit.

Edited November 28, 2018 by nightrider

[Guest]

17 minutes ago, nightrider said:

Dec 11, with 5 days of debate first.

 

If it does not go through then unless something else happens, yes its hard brexit with no deal. Labour have just said they will ask for a GE in these circumstances, and if that is not possible then they would ask for a referendum on what to do next.  Other options would be to revoke Article 50 (it is now confirmed this is possible due to the recent court case about that). Not sure if there are any other options or not to avoid no deal brexit.

thank you for your answer! 

[nickycheese 10]

35 minutes ago, nightrider said:

Other options would be to revoke Article 50 (it is now confirmed this is possible due to the recent court case about that).

Though it appears to be accepted by the EU that Article 50 is revokable, whether this can be done unilaterally, or needs unanimous agreement from the other 27 member states, is still to be decided...

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-46345287

 

This affects our options quite a bit!

Edited November 28, 2018 by nickycheese

[Lockdoctor 10]

1 hour ago, Magilla said:

Really, doesn't look that way, I at least know what we're actually discussing

 

I say that had the referendum recieved a 2/3rd marjority the country could, rightly, be said to be united. It didn't, so it isn't.

 

Hence my Swiss reference! D'oh!

 

That you're unable to fathom that, is what's really embarrassing here

 

However, none of this would have made any difference to any future deal with the EU, as was always the case, you can't have your cake and eat it.

 

 

Which of course, has no bearing on any statement I've made *at all*. It's not about what  Nicola Sturgeon might want

 

Of course it has a bearing on a statement you have made. I have presented you with an example where your suggestion would most certainly be rejected for obvious reasons.

[gomgeg 10]

3 hours ago, Halibut said:

What a bunch of scumbags, liars and thieves. 

Well get a job somewhere else then if you don't like them.

[I1L2T3 10]

38 minutes ago, gomgeg said:

Well get a job somewhere else then if you don't like them.

The most sensible plan is to get rid of the lying scumbag Brexiter politicians and take down their thieving corporate and hedge fund cronies.

 

 

[gomgeg 10]

35 minutes ago, I1L2T3 said:

The most sensible plan is to get rid of the lying scumbag Brexiter politicians and take down their thieving corporate and hedge fund cronies.

 

 

It's funny how all the bile and venom comes from the losers. No wonder you're depressed you probably need to get out a bit and speak to real people instead of spending all your time worrying about something you can't do anything about.

[Lockdoctor 10]

2 minutes ago, gomgeg said:

It's funny how all the bile and venom comes from the losers. No wonder you're depressed you probably need to get out a bit and speak to real people instead of spending all your time worrying about something you can't do anything about.

I agree, I voted to remain in the EU but accepted the democratic referendum result. I accept I was a loser in the referendum vote but unlike too many posters on the Sheffield Forum  who don't respect the democratic referendum result, I am not a loser in life. 

[Magilla 510]

1 hour ago, Lockdoctor said:

Of course it has a bearing on a statement you have made.

No, it really doesn't

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I have presented you with an example where your suggestion would most certainly be rejected for obvious reasons.

It's not my suggestion, it's the system the Swiss use to avoid *exactly* the situation the UK finds itself in now

 

Maybe you should take the business brain out for the day and insert the "comprehend basic written english one" ?

 

Edited November 28, 2018 by Magilla