truman 10 #6529 Posted November 28, 2018 1 minute ago, Lockdoctor said: All you're doing is embarrassing yourself and adding more evidence for me and any reasonable poster to conclude that you only respect any form of democracy or vote, if the result is to your own personal liking. Do you think Nicola Sturgeon and the SNP would agree to another Scottish Independent where it required two thirds of people voting Yes to Scottish Independence for the result of the referendum to be implicated? That's because she has a vested interest in the result..the clue is in her party's name.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Magilla 510 #6530 Posted November 28, 2018 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Lockdoctor said: All you're doing is embarrassing yourself Really, doesn't look that way, I at least know what we're actually discussing I say that had the referendum recieved a 2/3rd marjority the country could, rightly, be said to be united. It didn't, so it isn't. Hence my Swiss reference! D'oh! That you're unable to fathom that, is what's really embarrassing here However, none of this would have made any difference to any future deal with the EU, as was always the case, you can't have your cake and eat it. 30 minutes ago, Lockdoctor said: Do you think Nicola Sturgeon and the SNP would agree to another Scottish Independence Referendum where it required two thirds of people voting Yes to Scottish Independence for the result of the referendum to be implicated? Which of course, has no bearing on any statement I've made *at all*. It's not about what Nicola Sturgeon might want Edited November 28, 2018 by Magilla Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Guest #6531 Posted November 28, 2018 Quick question, when will exactly May's deal go through vote for the parliamentary approval? I don't get, does she have majority or not? If not, that's "hard Brexit", right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
nightrider 13 #6532 Posted November 28, 2018 (edited) 10 minutes ago, croat77 said: Quick question, when will exactly May's deal go through vote for the parliamentary approval? I don't get, does she have majority or not? If not, that's "hard Brexit", right? Dec 11, with 5 days of debate first. If it does not go through then unless something else happens, yes its hard brexit with no deal. Labour have just said they will ask for a GE in these circumstances, and if that is not possible then they would ask for a referendum on what to do next. Other options would be to revoke Article 50 (it is now confirmed this is possible due to the recent court case about that). Not sure if there are any other options or not to avoid no deal brexit. Edited November 28, 2018 by nightrider Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Guest #6533 Posted November 28, 2018 17 minutes ago, nightrider said: Dec 11, with 5 days of debate first. If it does not go through then unless something else happens, yes its hard brexit with no deal. Labour have just said they will ask for a GE in these circumstances, and if that is not possible then they would ask for a referendum on what to do next. Other options would be to revoke Article 50 (it is now confirmed this is possible due to the recent court case about that). Not sure if there are any other options or not to avoid no deal brexit. thank you for your answer! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
nickycheese 10 #6534 Posted November 28, 2018 (edited) 35 minutes ago, nightrider said: Other options would be to revoke Article 50 (it is now confirmed this is possible due to the recent court case about that). Though it appears to be accepted by the EU that Article 50 is revokable, whether this can be done unilaterally, or needs unanimous agreement from the other 27 member states, is still to be decided... https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-46345287 This affects our options quite a bit! Edited November 28, 2018 by nickycheese Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Lockdoctor 10 #6535 Posted November 28, 2018 1 hour ago, Magilla said: Really, doesn't look that way, I at least know what we're actually discussing I say that had the referendum recieved a 2/3rd marjority the country could, rightly, be said to be united. It didn't, so it isn't. Hence my Swiss reference! D'oh! That you're unable to fathom that, is what's really embarrassing here However, none of this would have made any difference to any future deal with the EU, as was always the case, you can't have your cake and eat it. Which of course, has no bearing on any statement I've made *at all*. It's not about what Nicola Sturgeon might want Of course it has a bearing on a statement you have made. I have presented you with an example where your suggestion would most certainly be rejected for obvious reasons. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
gomgeg 10 #6536 Posted November 28, 2018 3 hours ago, Halibut said: What a bunch of scumbags, liars and thieves. Well get a job somewhere else then if you don't like them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
I1L2T3 10 #6537 Posted November 28, 2018 38 minutes ago, gomgeg said: Well get a job somewhere else then if you don't like them. The most sensible plan is to get rid of the lying scumbag Brexiter politicians and take down their thieving corporate and hedge fund cronies. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
gomgeg 10 #6538 Posted November 28, 2018 35 minutes ago, I1L2T3 said: The most sensible plan is to get rid of the lying scumbag Brexiter politicians and take down their thieving corporate and hedge fund cronies. It's funny how all the bile and venom comes from the losers. No wonder you're depressed you probably need to get out a bit and speak to real people instead of spending all your time worrying about something you can't do anything about. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Lockdoctor 10 #6539 Posted November 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, gomgeg said: It's funny how all the bile and venom comes from the losers. No wonder you're depressed you probably need to get out a bit and speak to real people instead of spending all your time worrying about something you can't do anything about. I agree, I voted to remain in the EU but accepted the democratic referendum result. I accept I was a loser in the referendum vote but unlike too many posters on the Sheffield Forum who don't respect the democratic referendum result, I am not a loser in life. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Magilla 510 #6540 Posted November 28, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Lockdoctor said: Of course it has a bearing on a statement you have made. No, it really doesn't Quote I have presented you with an example where your suggestion would most certainly be rejected for obvious reasons. It's not my suggestion, it's the system the Swiss use to avoid *exactly* the situation the UK finds itself in now Maybe you should take the business brain out for the day and insert the "comprehend basic written english one" ? Edited November 28, 2018 by Magilla Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...