The Consequences of Brexit [part 5] Read 1st post before posting

[tinfoilhat 11]

"The EU has the only constitution in the world committed to capitalism. It destroys the prospects of socialism anywhere in Europe, making capitalism a constitutional requirement of that set-up." Tony Benn.

 

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Why do you wish to be a member of a supranational body imposing pro-competition rules on its members that bind them to the Great God Neoliberalism?

 

Do you hate the working class?

 

Do you think a Tory government will embrace socialism? A very inward looking socialism at that?

[I1L2T3 10]

Do you think a Tory government will embrace socialism? A very inward looking socialism at that?

 

Lockdoctor = Tory Brexit bot

Car boot = Labour Momentum bot

 

Both just repeat the same thing over and over

 

Distraction tactics.

[bendix 10]

Lockdoctor = Tory Brexit bot

Car boot = Labour Momentum bot

 

Both just repeat the same thing over and over

 

Distraction tactics.

 

Why is Brexit portrayed as a Tory thing. It is not predominantly a Tory issue, in fact it could be argued that it contradicts every fundamental point of conservatism.

 

Some Tories are Brexiters, true. I'm not. Equally, it was traditional working class votes in Labour strongholds like South Yorkshire that tipped the balance to Leave, and it's clear that Labour's leadership is and always has been ideologically opposed to the EU.

[The Joker 10]

Lockdoctor = Tory Brexit bot

Car boot = Labour Momentum bot

 

Both just repeat the same thing over and over

 

Distraction tactics.

 

I thought they were both putin-bots

[I1L2T3 10]

Why is Brexit portrayed as a Tory thing. It is not predominantly a Tory issue, in fact it could be argued that it contradicts every fundamental point of conservatism.

 

Some Tories are Brexiters, true. I'm not. Equally, it was traditional working class votes in Labour strongholds like South Yorkshire that tipped the balance to Leave, and it's clear that Labour's leadership is and always has been ideologically opposed to the EU.

 

Quite simply because the whole thing has been led by the right wing.

 

Without UKIP and a vocal Tory right there would never have been a chance of a Brexit driven by the left

 

The right own this. That’s how it is.

[Car Boot 10]

Figures from the EU show economic growth in the 19 countries using the euro currency slowed to 0.2%, from 0.4% in the previous quarter.

 

Growth across all 28 countries of the EU fell to 0.3% from 0.5%.

 

The National Institute for Social and Economic Research says it expects growth to be 0.7% for the UK in the third quarter.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-46028714

Edited October 30, 2018 by Car Boot

[bendix 10]

Quite simply because the whole thing has been led by the right wing.

 

Without UKIP and a vocal Tory right there would never have been a chance of a Brexit driven by the left

 

The right own this. That’s how it is.

 

Nope. I'm not buying that. It was voted for by both sides, left and right. Tradtional conservative and hardcore labour voters.

 

And at a leadership level, there are enough prominent labour leave supporters. Perhaps the right had more integrity by actually coming out and supporting it; the far left were more sneaky, complicity supporting it but not being seen to be associated directly.

[Flexo 10]

Lockdoctor = Tory Brexit bot

Car boot = Labour Momentum bot

 

Both just repeat the same thing over and over

 

Distraction tactics.

 

Not quite distraction tactics - rather tactics to make it appear that people still support Brexit and opinion is still divided.

 

It's only these troll accounts and a handful of disaster capitalists (lead by Jacob Rees Mogg) that continue to argue for Brexit. Never positive reasons - just "the will of the people". And that will has changed.

[I1L2T3 10]

Nope. I'm not buying that. It was voted for by both sides, left and right. Tradtional conservative and hardcore labour voters.

 

And at a leadership level, there are enough prominent labour leave supporters. Perhaps the right had more integrity by actually coming out and supporting it; the far left were more sneaky, complicity supporting it but not being seen to be associated directly.

 

Whatever you say you only have to look at the leaders of this.

 

They are practically all on the right.

 

Labour leave: Skinner, Hoey, Stuart and a few others. completely at odds with the majority of Labour voters where remain support approaches 70%

 

Yes we have to understand why some Labour supporters voted leave but this is very, very far away from being a Brexit for the left.

 

You’re never going to sell that

 

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Not quite distraction tactics - rather tactics to make it appear that people still support Brexit and opinion is still divided.

 

It's only these troll accounts and a handful of disaster capitalists (lead by Jacob Rees Mogg) that continue to argue for Brexit. Never positive reasons - just "the will of the people". And that will has changed.

 

Lockdoctors account was in the olden days used to promote his local locksmith business.

 

Has it been hacked?

[steve68 66]

Lockdoctor = Tory Brexit bot

Car boot = Labour Momentum bot

 

Both just repeat the same thing over and over

 

Distraction tactics.

 

Ok so who's the Russian bot then?

[I1L2T3 10]

Ok so who's the Russian bot then?

 

Both of them are behaving like Russian bots

[Litotes 63]

Figures from the EU show economic growth in the 19 countries using the euro currency slowed to 0.2%, from 0.4% in the previous quarter.

 

Growth across all 28 countries of the EU fell to 0.3% from 0.5%.

 

The National Institute for Social and Economic Research says it expects growth to be 0.7% for the UK in the third quarter.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-46028714

 

Just as well when we remain, we won't be using the euro...

 

Another reason for not exiting.