Car Boot   10 #421 Posted July 9, 2018 (edited) I think Anna Soubury and Ken Clarke will rue the day they brought about the demise of the Tories. Personally, at first, I liked the White Paper. But it appears I have been misled. When the full details emerge it looks like a soft Brexit. Nobody voted for that.  Farage on his show tonight stated that he is to stand for Ukip leader in March and they are going to put candidates up in all leave seats, especially those where the people voted to leave but the MP backed remain.  Interesting times ahead.  A backlash is coming. The public didn't vote to Leave the EU in greater numbers than have ever voted for anything in our entire history only to have a weak and corrupt establishment elite time waste for two years in order to water down Brexit until it has none of its original meaning... Edited July 9, 2018 by Car Boot Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
I1L2T3 Â Â 10 #422 Posted July 9, 2018 A backlash is coming. The public didn't vote to Leave the EU in greater numbers than have ever voted for anything in our entire history only to have weak and corrupt establishment elite time waste for two years in order to water down Brexit until it has none of its original meaning... Â Really? Â What sort of backlash? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
tinfoilhat   11 #423 Posted July 9, 2018 Really? What sort of backlash?  The comments section on the express website will be going nuts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Longcol   597 #424 Posted July 9, 2018 A backlash is coming. The public didn't vote to Leave the EU in greater numbers than have ever voted for anything in our entire history only to have a weak and corrupt establishment elite time waste for two years in order to water down Brexit until it has none of its original meaning...  Yes - Johnson, Fox, Rees Mogg, Davis etc have been abysmal.  BTW its hardly surprising a referendum these days results in "greater numbers than have ever voted for anything in our entire history" given that the population is the greatest in our entire history.  ---------- Post added 09-07-2018 at 21:55 ----------  Really? What sort of backlash?  I think he meant Car Boot lash Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
ez8004 Â Â 10 #425 Posted July 9, 2018 A backlash is coming. The public didn't vote to Leave the EU in greater numbers than have ever voted for anything in our entire history only to have a weak and corrupt establishment elite time waste for two years in order to water down Brexit until it has none of its original meaning... Â Yes you absolutely did. You voted to leave AND let the govenment decide HOW TO LEAVE. Â If that isn't your understanding, then that is your fault for not understanding how our govenment and democracy works. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Car Boot   10 #426 Posted July 9, 2018 Really? What sort of backlash?  A political backlash.  A political backlash that is driven by people's grievances.  People would have a very serious grievance if they felt their vote in the referendum had been diluted out of all meaning and was not respected by the political and establishment elite. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
melthebell   862 #427 Posted July 9, 2018 A political backlash. A political backlash that is driven by people's grievances.  People would have a very serious grievance if they felt their vote in the referendum had been diluted out of all meaning and was not respected by the political and establishment elite. you mean the sound of 17 million dummies hitting the ground all at the same time?  ---------- Post added 09-07-2018 at 22:08 ----------  LOL I think this version of the recent events is from the US? its also quite funny https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2018/07/the-end-of-the-brexit-illusion/564725/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Litotes   63 #428 Posted July 9, 2018 Glad to see that David Davies stuck by his word and exercised his democratic right to change his mind...  Now if only the rest of the government would recognise the overwhelming desire of the country to change theirs... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Car Boot   10 #429 Posted July 9, 2018 The comments section on the express website will be going nuts.  The Brexit vote is about much, much more than our membership of the EU.  It's seen by the disenfranchised, the weak, the poor, as the people versus the establishment. The vote gave a voice to those who have long been neglected, ignored and shunned for not sharing the same opinions as the wealthy establishment elite.  For the result of the vote to be ignored, diluted or possibly rerun is a step too far for a significant number of people. There will be huge consequences for our democracy, and we will enter new and dangerous territory. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
ScripTed   10 #430 Posted July 9, 2018 Really? What sort of backlash?  The comments section on the express website will be going nuts.  Think it's already started and can only get worse.  France, Germany and Italy now have large political parties that hate the EU.  Then there's Easter Europe who has gone anti-immigration.  The EU is critically flawed. Large sections of the populations just don't buy the benefits of the EU. It is doomed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
andyofborg   11 #431 Posted July 9, 2018 A backlash is coming. The public didn't vote to Leave the EU in greater numbers than have ever voted for anything in our entire history only to have a weak and corrupt establishment elite time waste for two years in order to water down Brexit until it has none of its original meaning...  but what was it's original meaning?  and by and large most people wont care what happens, as long as it's over  welcome back, did comerade putin recall you from the salt mine? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
tinfoilhat   11 #432 Posted July 9, 2018 The Brexit vote is about much, much more than our membership of the EU.  It's seen by the disenfranchised, the weak, the poor, as the people versus the establishment. The vote gave a voice to those who have long been neglected, ignored and shunned for not sharing the same opinions as the wealthy establishment elite.  For the result of the vote to be ignored, diluted or possibly rerun is a step too far for a significant number of people. There will be huge consequences for our democracy, and we will enter new and dangerous territory.  Where do you get his from?  I'll guarentee the only dangerous territory we will enter is if we leave in a hard disorganised brexit.  ---------- Post added 09-07-2018 at 22:17 ----------  Think it's already started and can only get worse. France, Germany and Italy now have large political parties that hate the EU.  Then there's Easter Europe who has gone anti-immigration.  The EU is critically flawed. Large sections of the populations just don't buy the benefits of the EU. It is doomed.  I will fully admit it's less than perfect but look at the mere spectre of leaving to our political system. The eu may reform but it won't implode. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
