Old Gas Club land to become a Lidl Supermarket?

[EFCMatt 10]

Cant see how the area needs another supermarket.  Morrison's, Iceland, Aldi, Lidl and Sainsbury's are all close by.

[Blue Day 10]

On 15/11/2019 at 14:20, EFCMatt said:

Cant see how the area needs another supermarket.  Morrison's, Iceland, Aldi, Lidl and Sainsbury's are all close by.

I stopped trying to understand planning etc years ago, a supermarket at Malin Bridge would be chaos. 
 

I notice there’s also one proposed for the waste ground on Penistone Rd opposite SWFC

[Hook 10]

On 15/11/2019 at 08:15, Centrepin said:

Yes, absolutely, several articulated lorries a day delivering and attempting to turn into and out of the entrance. Then you have the extra vehicle traffic in the area already at capacity. Queuing for in and out of the car park will cause longer queues round Mailin bridge and Hillsborough in general. Common sense really, the road isn't wide enough, the area is already at capacity, more houses being built in the green belt, it can only get worse.

The majority of stores will get one delivery a day, occasionally during busy periods 2.

[Centrepin 0]

1 hour ago, Hook said:

The majority of stores will get one delivery a day, occasionally during busy periods 2.

Since when? Must be planning a tiny shop. For example,  each Co-op in Stannington, 4 co-op lorries in daylight hours, plus bread lorry deliveries.

 

Lidl can do it in one lorry, I think not.

 

[Octopus99 10]

23 minutes ago, Centrepin said:

Since when? Must be planning a tiny shop. For example,  each Co-op in Stannington, 4 co-op lorries in daylight hours, plus bread lorry deliveries.

 

Lidl can do it in one lorry, I think not.

 

M&S can do their food deliveries on 2 vehicles, usually an early morning and a late evening one to avoid major disruption. 

[Centrepin 0]

11 hours ago, Octopus99 said:

M&S can do their food deliveries on 2 vehicles, usually an early morning and a late evening one to avoid major disruption. 

Ok, so that's food, how about bread which is from another distribution centre or the bakery? Then you have clothing and other goods. M&S have different lorries for food and clothing, also different distribution centres. What happens when 2 arrive at the same time, Oh a queue.

[Crissie 18]

2 hours ago, Centrepin said:

Ok, so that's food, how about bread which is from another distribution centre or the bakery? Then you have clothing and other goods. M&S have different lorries for food and clothing, also different distribution centres. What happens when 2 arrive at the same time, Oh a queue.

Transportation logistics is a well-developed process to ensure that deliveries are scheduled to avoid this.

[Centrepin 0]

3 hours ago, Crissie said:

Transportation logistics is a well-developed process to ensure that deliveries are scheduled to avoid this.

Transport logistics is a joke, it relies on all traffic lights to be green, zero traffic and absolutely no delays, all staff to be present, lorries arriving and departing the distribution centres on time. Trailers loaded in advance. Stock levels, drivers not running out of driving or spread over time or WTD. Then factor in drivers not wanting to work for poorly run or aggressive companies so agency drivers are used. Transport logistics and transport managers do not live in the real world, they have targets to meet.

Just one more articulated lorry queuing through Hillsborough and Malin Bridge could cause tail backs both ways on Penistone road especially in peak period.

 

It's just not a viable proposition.  But no doubt it will go ahead and then we'll see the results. Malin bridge and Hillsborough gridlocked for hours on end.

[Hook 10]

On 16/11/2019 at 20:20, Centrepin said:

Since when? Must be planning a tiny shop. For example,  each Co-op in Stannington, 4 co-op lorries in daylight hours, plus bread lorry deliveries.

 

Lidl can do it in one lorry, I think not.

 

My partner manages one of the biggest Lidl in South Yorks so it can be done and usually is. 
 

Unlike Co-Op everything comes from the RDC, so there’s no separate deliveries for bread, milk etc.

Edited November 17, 2019 by Hook

[lottiecass 17]

58 minutes ago, Hook said:

My partner manages one of the biggest Lidl in South Yorks so it can be done and usually is. 
 

Unlike Co-Op everything comes from the RDC, so there’s no separate deliveries for bread, milk etc.

But is sited in a place like malin bridge ? no doubt it will get permission but the traffic jam is bound to get worse.

[Centrepin 0]

9 hours ago, Hook said:

My partner manages one of the biggest Lidl in South Yorks so it can be done and usually is. 
 

Unlike Co-Op everything comes from the RDC, so there’s no separate deliveries for bread, milk etc.

Lidl RDC is outrageous. To start with the  booking in procedures are a joke, hurry up and wait. If you speak English you need an interpreter to speak to staff if you can find them, and when they do turn up, they are surly and uncooperative. So under staffed because of  minimum pay and awful working conditions. Hundreds of empty bays, no staff. Drivers have to unload their own lorries with equipment they are not trained to use, because they can't keep staff, hours and hours to wait for paperwork. Containers kept for days and days to be unloaded. If they can't run a warehouse properly which is supposed to supply more than one shop, how can they be reasonably expected to supply a chain of shops on time. Therefore timings out the window, lorries arriving departing unscheduled. Queuing is inevitable. 

 

Lidl, food and produce is cheap for a reason, it lacks quality. 

 

No doubt it will be built, and people will have to find alternate routes to Hilsborough and Malin bridge yet again. A bus journey from Stannington to Hillsborough could be taking an hour soon.

 

I seriously hope it fails, gets pulled down and turned into a park and ride.

[Hook 10]

9 hours ago, lottiecass said:

But is sited in a place like malin bridge ? no doubt it will get permission but the traffic jam is bound to get worse.

The problem isn’t a Lidl, or anything else. The problem is the lack of development in infrastructure, the appalling investment in public transport and the increasing reliance on the car. 

42 minutes ago, Centrepin said:

Lidl RDC is outrageous. To start with the  booking in procedures are a joke, hurry up and wait. If you speak English you need an interpreter to speak to staff if you can find them, and when they do turn up, they are surly and uncooperative. So under staffed because of  minimum pay and awful working conditions. Hundreds of empty bays, no staff. Drivers have to unload their own lorries with equipment they are not trained to use, because they can't keep staff, hours and hours to wait for paperwork. Containers kept for days and days to be unloaded. If they can't run a warehouse properly which is supposed to supply more than one shop, how can they be reasonably expected to supply a chain of shops on time. Therefore timings out the window, lorries arriving departing unscheduled. Queuing is inevitable. 

 

Lidl, food and produce is cheap for a reason, it lacks quality. 

 

No doubt it will be built, and people will have to find alternate routes to Hilsborough and Malin bridge yet again. A bus journey from Stannington to Hillsborough could be taking an hour soon.

 

I seriously hope it fails, gets pulled down and turned into a park and ride.

Do you have an axe to grind per chance?