stifflersmom   11 #109 Posted August 14, 2018 Cyclists don't pay anything towards roads. That's my only gripe really. A license & insurance should be held for cyclists to use certain roads. Absurd not to consider them road users.  Anyone who pays tax contributes to the roads. Try and understand how road funding actually works! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
chakademus   10 #110 Posted August 14, 2018 Anyone who pays tax contributes to the roads. Try and understand how road funding actually works!  No road tax, no insurance, no license. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
stifflersmom   11 #111 Posted August 14, 2018 No road tax, no insurance, no license.  If that's your argument...weak as it is, your anger should be focussed on the 1 million plus uninsured vehicles on the roads. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
chakademus   10 #112 Posted August 14, 2018 If that's your argument...weak as it is, your anger should be focussed on the 1 million plus uninsured vehicles on the roads.  Not an argument just stating fact. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
stifflersmom   11 #113 Posted August 14, 2018 Not an argument just stating fact.  It cant be fact if its based on a falsehood ( 'road tax') or isn't true (insurance....many people will have 3rd party injury cover as part of their home insurance and anyone who cycles in a club will have it as part of their membership). As far as licences go then yes, you don't need one but as many cyclists also drive then it isn't really an issue. I've often thought that the single thing that would benefit all road users and make cyclists and motorcyclists safer is to include riding them as part of the car test. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
chakademus   10 #114 Posted August 14, 2018 It cant be fact if its based on a falsehood ( 'road tax') or isn't true (insurance....many people will have 3rd party injury cover as part of their home insurance and anyone who cycles in a club will have it as part of their membership). As far as licences go then yes, you don't need one but as many cyclists also drive then it isn't really an issue. I've often thought that the single thing that would benefit all road users and make cyclists and motorcyclists safer is to include riding them as part of the car test.  So I'm insured if a cyclist causes damage to my motor vehicle, sure about that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Vasquez Rich   10 #115 Posted August 14, 2018 Are you insured if a pedestrian causes damage to your car? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Becky B Â Â 31 #116 Posted August 14, 2018 So I'm insured if a cyclist causes damage to my motor vehicle, sure about that? Â Yes. . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Resident   1,193 #117 Posted August 14, 2018 It cant be fact if its based on a falsehood ( 'road tax') or isn't true (insurance....many people will have 3rd party injury cover as part of their home insurance and anyone who cycles in a club will have it as part of their membership). As far as licences go then yes, you don't need one but as many cyclists also drive then it isn't really an issue. I've often thought that the single thing that would benefit all road users and make cyclists and motorcyclists safer is to include riding them as part of the car test.  But say a cyclist damages my vehicle and decides to make off without giving details, how does the VICTIM of the damage go about claiming off this supposed insurance?  Motorists have the Motor Insurance Bureau for when an uninsured driver hits them, Can you point me in the cyclist's version, just for everyone's reference?  Yes. .  So motorists should just claim on their own insurance, if they have comprehensive cover, since it's not an option with 3rd Party and suck it up when their renewal doubles due to loss of No-Claims because a lycra-loser failed to stop and give details after hitting my vehicle? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
dutch   68 #118 Posted August 14, 2018 Most cyclist in Netherlands have liability insurance on a voluntary basis. Its not expensive there, in UK it probably cost ten times more, better off cycling without then feed rip off UK insurance. Comparing cycles with cars as a taxed vehicle is a joke, but that's the way people think here, it displays their real psychology on many issues. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
chakademus   10 #119 Posted August 14, 2018 Are you insured if a pedestrian causes damage to your car?  Driving???????  ---------- Post added 14-08-2018 at 22:43 ----------  Yes. .  Errr I have to claim on my own insurance. Cyclists aren't insured by law.  ---------- Post added 14-08-2018 at 22:44 ----------  It cant be fact if its based on a falsehood ( 'road tax') or isn't true (insurance....many people will have 3rd party injury cover as part of their home insurance and anyone who cycles in a club will have it as part of their membership). As far as licences go then yes, you don't need one but as many cyclists also drive then it isn't really an issue. I've often thought that the single thing that would benefit all road users and make cyclists and motorcyclists safer is to include riding them as part of the car test.  I was stating 3 facts bro, please don't argue. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
stifflersmom   11 #120 Posted August 14, 2018 But say a cyclist damages my vehicle and decides to make off without giving details, how does the VICTIM of the damage go about claiming off this supposed insurance?  Motorists have the Motor Insurance Bureau for when an uninsured driver hits them, Can you point me in the cyclist's version, just for everyone's reference?    So motorists should just claim on their own insurance, if they have comprehensive cover, since it's not an option with 3rd Party and suck it up when their renewal doubles due to loss of No-Claims because a lycra-loser failed to stop and give details after hitting my vehicle? But, what if, whatabout... If the cyclust makes off there isn't much you can do, but rare would ne the case when damage to a car is greater than damage to the cyclist/bicycle. Factor in the excess on most peoples policies and it isnt worth claiming on insurance. And there lies the true reason why cyclists aren't required by law to be insured; the risk and consequences of damage are laughably low in comparison with motorised vehicles. 5 pedestrians will have been killed today by motorised vehicles, as they will, on average, every day this year. But, hey, we'll have dangerous cycling laws to cover the 0.6% of deaths involving a pedestrian and cyclist, so all good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...