North South Divide - When is Enough Enough?

[the_bloke 17]

Or perhaps more people use it because with 4 times the level of spending it's much more useable.

 

Chicken and egg in my opinion. Do more people use it because it's better, or is it better because more people need to use it?

 

It's also not so clear cut as spending per head; London is an enormous tourist destination, so all those tourist users aren't going to be factored in the simple sum of £xx divided by yy population which is what I assume is being used.

[Cyclone 10]

It's not "more people" getting the same spend per head though. More people would result in more money obviously. But they get four times as much PER PERSON.

 

As an example of under investment in northern transport, consider the difficulty of commuting from Sheffield to Manchester. In London terms that's about the same distance of one side of the city to the other, zone 5 to zone 5. Look at the trains that run, the over crowding, under services, SLOW, trains. Imagine how much both cities would be improved by a fast, voluminous, frequent train link during commuting times. Leeds is a similar distance, but at least has somewhat quicker trains.

Edited July 11, 2018 by Cyclone

[geared 302]

and look at the trains themsleves, rough, smelly and worn-out.

 

We were even offered decades old tube trains as an 'upgrade' ours are so poor.

[altus 534]

It's not "more people" getting the same spend per head though. More people would result in more money obviously. But they get four times as much PER PERSON.

Just to put the maths in perspective for the_bloke - that would mean at any time there were three times as many tourists in London as the size of the local population.

[geared 302]

It's also not so clear cut as spending per head; London is an enormous tourist destination, so all those tourist users aren't going to be factored in the simple sum of £xx divided by yy population which is what I assume is being used.

 

Don't forget the large number of people that travel to London from outside on a daily basis for work.

[Cyclone 10]

Don't forget the large number of people that travel to London from outside on a daily basis for work.

 

Made possible by excellent public transport.

 

If the work force in the north were more mobile through better transport (including roads) then there would be economic benefit for area.

[sedith 19]

I live in the south and believe me 'the north south divide' only exists in the north of England. Your average southerner is indifferent to this

[Cyclone 10]

People who benefit from 'divide' aren't unhappy about 'divide'. Hands up if you're at all surprised by that revelation.

[geared 302]

Made possible by excellent public transport.

 

If the work force in the north were more mobile through better transport (including roads) then there would be economic benefit for area.

 

but Northern Powerhouse??? and other political empty promises

[Staunton 18]

At least the revenues allocated to local authorities are fairly distributed by central government aren't they?

[Obelix 11]

I live in the south and believe me 'the north south divide' only exists in the north of England. Your average southerner is indifferent to this

 

Because of course it's not a problem to them, they dont lose out...?

 

They do whine like anything when I travel south for the week to work. Comments about me plucking their nest and taking it back to my cheap massive house in Yorkshire come thick and fast...