Robin-H Â Â 11 #85 Posted June 21, 2018 My mistake: the academic paper I was trying to refer to was actually produced by the University of Surry, the Government and Telefonica. Section 3.1 states "To avoid this shadowing loss and be outside of the Fresnel zone, it is necessary for the tree height to be at least 3m less than the base station height." The paper makes it clear that the high frequency involved in 5G can not penetrate trees of the same height as the transmitter. Hence the need, presumably, for Sheffield / Worcester / Gloucester etc. councils to cut down a vast proportion of the existing trees and replace them with saplings. The link is https://www.surrey.ac.uk/sites/default/files/White-Paper-Rural-5G-Vision_0.pdf. Â I think you need to do more research into the Fresnal Zone if you think that roadside trees would prevent 5G signals from entering properties. Â Do you think trees effect the Fresnal zone in a way that houses don't? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Cyclone   10 #86 Posted June 22, 2018 5G must be a bit rubbish if it can be stopped by a few trees. But, like others, I’d quite like the evidence for your claims of catastrophic deforestation.  It's short range, high bandwidth. It can be stopped by trees, walls, bodies. Anything at all substantial will stop the penetration. Roadside trees are sparse and dispersed though, you'd need to stand inside a small wood to actually block the signal entirely. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Obelix   11 #87 Posted June 22, 2018 My mistake: the academic paper I was trying to refer to was actually produced by the University of Surry, the Government and Telefonica. Section 3.1 states "To avoid this shadowing loss and be outside of the Fresnel zone, it is necessary for the tree height to be at least 3m less than the base station height." The paper makes it clear that the high frequency involved in 5G can not penetrate trees of the same height as the transmitter. Hence the need, presumably, for Sheffield / Worcester / Gloucester etc. councils to cut down a vast proportion of the existing trees and replace them with saplings. The link is https://www.surrey.ac.uk/sites/default/files/White-Paper-Rural-5G-Vision_0.pdf.  I'm sorry where does it say in the paper that you have to cut down all these trees?  It's talking about BASE stations needing to be above the treeline. This is already well known and doesnt require all the trees cutting down. So where are you getting this from then?  As for needing 100% of signal at the far end - well let me put it this way. Is your hosue made entirely of glass? No? But you still get more than sufficient light through your windows to see yes? Despite the walls blocking more than I'd guess 80% of the light falling on your house...? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Dozer   13 #88 Posted June 22, 2018 But you still get more than sufficient light through your windows to see yes? Despite the walls blocking more than I'd guess 80% of the light falling on your house...?   Nice! I'm a fan of explanatory text -- this is a great and clear metaphor, and helped me understand your point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Dude111   10 #89 Posted June 25, 2018 Cisco is putting rural UK locations first with 5G trials  http://5g.co.uk/news/cisco-is-putting-rural-locations-first-with-5g-trials/4330   5g brain cancer increases across gateshead   5G AND BRAIN CANCER - THE LINK - UNLAWFUL EXPERIMENT EXPOSING THE PEOPLE OF GATESHEAD TO THE UNTESTED 5G HIGH GAIN ANTENNAS IRRADIATING THE PEOPLE IN THEIR BEDROOMS WHILE SLEEPING. [more] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Longcol   597 #90 Posted June 25, 2018 Cisco is putting rural UK locations first with 5G trials  http://5g.co.uk/news/cisco-is-putting-rural-locations-first-with-5g-trials/4330   5g brain cancer increases across gateshead   Your 20k plus posts on the David Icke Forum qualify you for;  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Guest   #91 Posted June 25, 2018 Cisco is putting rural UK locations first with 5G trials  http://5g.co.uk/news/cisco-is-putting-rural-locations-first-with-5g-trials/4330   5g brain cancer increases across gateshead   You need to get off youtube. Also not everything on the internet is true. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Jeffrey Shaw   90 #92 Posted June 25, 2018 not everything on the internet is true. Goodness me. Anyway, I suspect that most brains do weigh more than 5g. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
barleycorn   10 #93 Posted June 26, 2018 From the evidence presented in this thread I can point to a couple which don't. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
RollingJ Â Â 1,999 #94 Posted June 26, 2018 Unless Dronfieldman is Hera in another guise (possible) the OP seems to have slunk away. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Longcol   597 #95 Posted June 26, 2018 Unless Dronfieldman is Hera in another guise (possible) the OP seems to have slunk away.  I think Hera is one Patrick Rattigan;  https://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11884681&postcount=24  Dronfieldman would appear to be a "disciple".  https://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showpost.php?p=7483375&postcount=1234  Both only post on here very sporadically. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
RollingJ Â Â 1,999 #96 Posted June 26, 2018 I think Hera is one Patrick Rattigan;Â https://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11884681&postcount=24 Â Dronfieldman would appear to be a "disciple". Â https://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showpost.php?p=7483375&postcount=1234 Â Both only post on here very sporadically. Â Cheers, Longcol - I don't study the forum that much, but this silly thread piqued my interest (and humour) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...