melthebell   863 #157 Posted June 17, 2006 You're getting mixed up. The Fox hunting ban was purely a vile socialist act. That section of the radical animal rights activist movement merely continually broke the law by tresspassing onto private property and threatened, wearing hoodies and scarves around their faces (as all law-abiding citizens do with nothing to hide, i'm sure you'll agree)  The fact is the RSPCA is against everything that would bring cash to the UK. They are against live animal exports because they have to be to placate their supporters.  Now, nowhere and genuinely please show me this.. where they countenance the argument that the UK has the stringest laws so livestock would be much safer and have a first class ticket travelling from here than other nations that will be exporting them.  They can't nor can the terrorist sector of the movement who've scared the drug companies away to nations who don't give a dman on animal testing.   you dont know what your giibbering about  apart from classing all animal rights supporters as terrorists and all fox hunters as law abiding citizens    you actually seen the videos where hunt sabs get attacked by fox hunters on horses? you know theres been at least a couple of hunt sabs killed by fox hunters.....not one fox hunter has Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
A.B.Yaffle   24 #158 Posted June 17, 2006 You're getting mixed up. The Fox hunting ban was purely a vile socialist act. That section of the radical animal rights activist movement merely continually broke the law by tresspassing onto private property and threatened, wearing hoodies and scarves around their faces (as all law-abiding citizens do with nothing to hide, i'm sure you'll agree)  The simple fact is that this Government has at last given in to what the majority of the public wanted... a ban on one form of animal cruelty. You make a point about anti-hunt campaigners trespassing onto private property, but you forgot (or chose to ignore?) the hunters who allow their hounds to trespass on private property and rip pet cats to shreds. It also seems you have conveniently forgotten about the hunt that allowed their hounds to terrify children at a primary school near Barnsley? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Wonderboy   10 #159 Posted June 18, 2006 Those children were a dangerous threat to the local wildlife and their numbers needed to be thinned Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
waldershelf   10 #160 Posted June 19, 2006 I think we need to introduce a few facts to this debate:- 1) Foxes are vermin and need to be controlled 2) The biggest killer of foxes in the uk is winter, the second biggest killer is the motor car 3) The "hunt" is a very inefficient way of controlling the fox population 4) Most farmers would rather shoot a fox than let the hunt run round scaring there animals. The problem with fox hunting is the mentality of the people who want to do it not with the act of removing part of the fox population, any one who is prepared to take part has got a serious personality flaw in my opinion. I used to work for a butcher back when butchers slaughtered on the premises and don't have a problem with killing animals its just the "sport" and "pleasure" part of killing that I find distasteful. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
sccsux   10 #161 Posted June 19, 2006 its just the "spot" and "pleasure" part of killing that I find distasteful.  I'd hardly call it a "sport". The fox is at a massive disadvantage from the start.  It's like having a game of football game with 11 players on one side, and two on the other:| Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
melthebell   863 #162 Posted June 19, 2006 I'd hardly call it a "sport". The fox is at a massive disadvantage from the start. It's like having a game of football game with 11 players on one side, and two on the other:|  and tiring em out before you start    and ripping em apart afterwards, and smearing your face with their blood Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
KenH   10 #163 Posted June 19, 2006 and tiring em out before you start   and ripping em apart afterwards, and smearing your face with their blood  But if you stop the ripping apart and smearing with blood elements then will 250,000 people lose their jobs and thousands of innocent footballers have to be destroyed, or can you just play football without the bloody bits instead? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Bartfarst   10 #164 Posted June 19, 2006 apart from classing all animal rights supporters as terrorists and all fox hunters as law abiding citizens Pretty close to the mark there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
A.B.Yaffle   24 #165 Posted June 19, 2006 Pretty close to the mark there.  Shame on all those terrorists who wrote to the Star condemning those sportsmen who killed a cat in their oven in Barnsley a few months ago! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Guest   #166 Posted June 19, 2006 ban all forms of animal cruelty! how can we do it? I couldn't knowingly hurt any living creature! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Bartfarst   10 #167 Posted June 20, 2006 Shame on all those terrorists who wrote to the Star condemning those sportsmen who killed a cat in their oven in Barnsley a few months ago! For goodness' sake, an isolated incident of cruelty - how does that compare to digging up an old lady's remains? Or sending letter bombs?  If the local hunt's main activitues were focused on sending letter bombs and attempting to blackmail animal lovers, fair enough. If all they do is kill the odd pest animal, I'd suggest that the do gooders should just fv@k off and mind their own business. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
A.B.Yaffle   24 #168 Posted June 21, 2006 For goodness' sake, an isolated incident of cruelty - how does that compare to digging up an old lady's remains? Or sending letter bombs?  Most people don't compare being opposed to fox-hunting to digging up old lady's remains or sending letter bombs. Who on this thread has supported either of those actions? Only a complete ignoramous would seriously think that the majority of the public who were in favour of banning fox-hunting were also in favour of digging up old ladies and sending letter bombs.  One of your problems appears to be that you are incapable of disagreeing with other people without grossly distorting the truth about them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...