Foxhunting? What sort of lunatics enjoy it?

[Chewbacca 10]

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[A.B.Yaffle 24]

I am sorry, but so many of the view posted above are emotional rather than rational.

 

As previously explained, the hunt is a replacement (albeit an artificial one) for the natural predators that the human race has extinguished.

 

So what if the fox gets ripped apart - that is what would have happened in nature anyway - dogs hunt in packs, foxes are solitary creatures.

 

Ecological arguements aside, it saddens me to see people who must consider themselves to be in the more educated percentile discussing this rather than considering the state of the country.

 

Surely the parliament would have been better put to use debating unemployment, education, racism, or any other injustice rather than the hours of times and huge amounts of taxpayers money which was spent on, what is after all, just a vote grabber.

 

All of those who looked away from the shambles that the country is in to consider the plight of the 'poor' fox, consider yourselves well and truly hoodwinked by Tony B'liar' and cronies.

 

Hmmm, what next - the plight of the lemmings...?

 

So you think until human suffering is completely wiped out, people should be free to do what ever they like to animals? Thats the way your post comes across. We shouldn't have legislated against torturing cats and dogs, we shouldn't have legislated against working-class "sports" like badger baiting and dog fighting, should we?

 

Some of us are capable of caring about non-human animals AND our fellow humans.

[gd_1 10]

Is it any less cruel to breed foxes so we can get dogs to rip them to pieces for fun than to put a cat or a dog in an oven for fun? We've had at least one case of the latter in South Yorkshire in the last year and I didn't see a mad rush of people trying to defend that. Although I dare say the anti-cat poster on here was probably glad when he/she heard about that case.

 

I am not an anti cat person so please stop saying I must support extreme cruelty because I stated something you did'nt agree with. Are you stupid, can you not read? My whole argument is that if you choose to have a cat you are being worse than the people who go hunting in regards to the suffering to animals it will cause.

 

Cat are fine on a farm or place where there is a vermin problem but the fact is domestic cats cause far more harm and suffering to animals than any fox hunt. Just because they hurt smaller animals and lots of people in the city have cats it is deemed socially ok. My point is for all our high brow pontificating about the cruelties of one human activity many of us do worse.

 

What is the point of complaining about fox hunting when your cat that you have for your own pleasure kills far more animals than a fox hunt will and probably tortures them more. Is it ok because it is your pet and you like having it, or is it ok because you don't do the killing (Just like a pack of hounds), or is it because they kill smaller animals, or is it because you don't really give a monkeys about things dying if it is going to restrict your pleasure?

 

This is article says wild cats but there are many more cats in the city and I bet they kill more. I would rather have birds in my garden than cats and their after effects.

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/5026222.stm

[anlabystreet 12]

its so difficult trying to talk sense to an idiot isnt it???

[anlabystreet 12]

Does anyone on here eat chicken?

 

Most chicken we eat are battery farmed, what sort of life’s and deaths do these poor birds have?

 

I think killing a fox for sport is terrible but at least that fox has had a free life before its nasty death, those poor chickens haven’t!

 

I don’t see how we can ban fox hunting when IMO there are some much more barbaric things done to animals to save us all a few £££ off our food bills!

 

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i agree its cruel and should be stopped...but you can't justify foxhunting because of other cruelty...it all needs stopping...about four years ago i was walking along wharncliffe crags were on foot chasing a fox with dogs..following on were about 50 people many of them old and with walking sticks ...yet all had managed the steep uphill climb to get to the crags to see their glorious "sport"..these are almost certainly the same ******** who the disabled bays were meant for at the b&q...i see them moaning at others for parking in their while carrying ironing boards and similar heavt stuff to their cars...if they were so badly disabled they wouldnt be shopping in a diy store...parasites!!!!

[anlabystreet 12]

sorry about that..i meant to say the wortley hunt were on wharncliffe crags...followed by about 50 hangers on...

[RAR! 10]

Anybody who lives in the countryside will realise it is actually doing good. Farmers can get ruined by foxes destroying their livestock. They are disease ridden pests, there are too many of them and most fox hunters kill the foxes straight away, not putting them through painful deaths or anything like that.

[redrobbo 10]

Just a shame so much time was wasted in Parliament because of vindictive, jealous socialists. Labour's Britain is going down the pan for humans but vermin were considered ahead of human life. Typical of the left. Remember seeing Tony Benn as smug as can be on BBC Parliament during the debate, displaying his hatred of hard working country folk, their livelihood and their traditions.

 

I suppose that the Tory MP Anne Widdecombe was also one of these "vindictive, jealous socialists"? After all, along with other Tory and Lib-Dem MPs, she too voted in favour of banning hunting with dogs.

 

Please do remember that the 1997 Labour Party manifesto didn't promise to ban fox-hunting. The 1997 manifesto stated "We will ensure greater protection for wildlife. We have advocated new measures to promote animal welfare, including a free vote in Parliament on whether hunting with hounds should be banned." A free vote is what Parliament had - and MPs voted according to their conscience, and not according to party allegiance or whip; so your argument that it was the decision of "vindictive, jealous socialists" simply doesn't stand up to scrutiny.

[Cliff Clavin 10]

Who does foxhunting?

 

Toffs who don't respect life and have so much money they are bored. I believe if they could hunt peasants/working class then they'd settle for that.

[Cliff Clavin 10]

Anybody who lives in the countryside will realise it is actually doing good. Farmers can get ruined by foxes destroying their livestock. They are disease ridden pests, there are too many of them and most fox hunters kill the foxes straight away, not putting them through painful deaths or anything like that.

 

Farmers can't get ruined, their profits may be a little less to the point they may have around £500 less this year BUT aye who cares about the lives of a dozen or more foxes???

[Bartfarst 10]

Who does foxhunting?

 

Toffs who don't respect life and have so much money they are bored. I believe if they could hunt peasants/working class then they'd settle for that.

The common misconception of classes that are transfixed by political envy.

 

Foxhunting is undertaken by working country people - just because they wear hunting jackets and ride a horse doesn’t make them 'toffs'.

 

Only town-dwellers who've no idea whatsoever about how the countryside works have this sort of attitude.

[Cliff Clavin 10]

The common misconception of classes that are transfixed by political envy.

 

Foxhunting is undertaken by working country people - just because they wear hunting jackets and ride a horse doesn’t make them 'toffs'.

 

Only town-dwellers who've no idea whatsoever about how the countryside works have this sort of attitude.

 

Believe me I know how all classes work, i've studied it and i've lived in the countryside to know how it works, the Toffs love to chase and kill foxes it gives them a power thrill full stop!!!