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I've never belonged to a political party and wouldn't want to. And what has political donations got to do with another country releasing a nerve agent in the UK ?

 

Potentially a lot of things.

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I've never belonged to a political party and wouldn't want to. And what has political donations got to do with another country releasing a nerve agent in the UK ?

Its to do with the aftermath and the responses of the government taking donations? we all hear about certain doners trying to steer a government "their" way, quangos and all that.

I think the term is personal...or vested interest? if you are taking money off somebody then you could be seen as favourable to them in return?

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Its to do with the aftermath and the responses of the government taking donations? we all hear about certain doners trying to steer a government "their" way, quangos and all that.

I think the term is personal...or vested interest? if you are taking money off somebody then you could be seen as favourable to them in return?

At the end of the day 3 victims are still in hospital. A foreign power has released a nerve agent on our soil and still some seem to be more concerned about political donations. I still can't see why donations have any relevance to this attack or our response.

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Nothing at all has been said about the medical condition of the 2 Russians and little regarding the policeman.

Are they still unable to communicate,or is some of the direction of the investigation down to their information?

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How are they cheap shots.

 

Do you think a governing party is not going to be affected, or be accused of being affected, by enemies of Putin if they are taking donations from them.

 

Or worse still what if your honest Russian with legit cash is actually a Putin supporter?

 

You’re being naive and ignore the practicalities and risks of continuing to receive funds from these sources.

 

I understand why you are doing it but you do have to face up to the realities.

 

Even if they are receiving money from Russians with links to Putin then there is no reason to stop that legally. It's not v much different from accepting money from people connected to Donald Trump for example. Putin is the elected ruler of Russia (how much is down to corruption and coercion we shall never know).

 

Quite frankly all funding of political parties should be banned and all parties are funded from a shared pot that is given out based along party members, current MPs, number of candidates standing, vote share at last election etc, then we wouldn't have any conflicts of interests to discuss at all.

 

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At the end of the day 3 victims are still in hospital. A foreign power has released a nerve agent on our soil and still some seem to be more concerned about political donations. I still can't see why donations have any relevance to this attack or our response.

 

Except at this time there is no evidence to confirm it is a foreign power who is to blame...

 

Last year the OPCW categorically stated that Russia had no stockpiles of nerve agents or any other chemical weapons and they had no realistic means of manufacture either.

 

https://www.opcw.org/news/article/opcw-director-general-commends-major-milestone-as-russia-completes-destruction-of-chemical-weapons-stockpile-under-opcw-verification/

 

Whereas of course the UK has held both the means to produce nerve agents and has quite a large stockpile of them (only for 'defence testing' of course) just 8 miles from Salisbury...

 

 

I still believe Russia is the most likely suspect, but how much of that is simply because I just can't believe our own government could be so corrupt and how much of that is actually evidence led?

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Nothing at all has been said about the medical condition of the 2 Russians and little regarding the policeman.

Are they still unable to communicate,or is some of the direction of the investigation down to their information?

 

"Critical but stable" is the report I hear on BBC news nightly.

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Nothing at all has been said about the medical condition of the 2 Russians and little regarding the policeman.

Are they still unable to communicate,or is some of the direction of the investigation down to their information?

 

A BBC journalist reported sources inside the hospital saying that the father and daughter were both in a coma and unlikely to recover. The police officer was reported to be ill but seemed to be recovering.

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what person in their right mind would pay £160,000 to have a game of tennis with someone

and £30,000 to have dinner with someone

 

unimaginable

 

unless they have a hidden agenda

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At the end of the day 3 victims are still in hospital. A foreign power has released a nerve agent on our soil and still some seem to be more concerned about political donations. I still can't see why donations have any relevance to this attack or our response.

You are absolutely correct. As a nation we should be united, pulling together and supporting our democratically elected government for the strong stance they have taken against the perpetrator of the attack on UK soil.

 

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what person in their right mind would pay £160,000 to have a game of tennis with someone

and £30,000 to have dinner with someone

 

unimaginable

 

unless they have a hidden agenda

People with too much money.

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You are absolutely correct. As a nation we should be united, pulling together and supporting our democratically elected government for the strong stance they have taken against the perpetrator of the attack on UK soil.

 

strong stance? what is that then? they have only expelled some diplomats, and the Russians have expelled some of ours, i fail to see what Mrs May has achieved in doing this, and dont give me that nonsense about sending a strong message to Mr Putin, he will be laughing his head of at her, and the silly jumped up little fool who told Russia to shut up and go away

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strong stance? what is that then? they have only expelled some diplomats, and the Russians have expelled some of ours, i fail to see what Mrs May has achieved in doing this, and dont give me that nonsense about sending a strong message to Mr Putin, he will be laughing his head of at her, and the silly jumped up little fool who told Russia to shut up and go away

It was a strong stance to name Russia directly as the perpetrator of the chemical attack and give them 24 hours to offer a convincing explanation as to why Novichok had been used on UK soil before the UK got support from other Nations and NATO.

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It was a strong stance to name Russia directly as the perpetrator of the chemical attack and give them 24 hours to offer a convincing explanation as to why Novichok had been used on UK soil before the UK got support from other Nations and NATO.

 

oh yeah, i forgot about that deadline, that really showed them :hihi:

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