altus   514 #1381 Posted September 26, 2018 Skripal suspect 'real name' revealed as Anatoliy Chepiga. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
janie48 Â Â 92 #1382 Posted September 26, 2018 Skripal suspect 'real name' revealed as Anatoliy Chepiga. Â So the plot thickens. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
melthebell   862 #1383 Posted September 26, 2018 So the plot thickens. not really, do you really think they used their real names and passports? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
John   11 #1384 Posted September 26, 2018 More detailed info here: https://www.bellingcat.com/news/uk-and-europe/2018/09/26/skripal-suspect-boshirov-identified-gru-colonel-anatoliy-chepiga/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Top Cats Hat   10 #1385 Posted September 26, 2018 do you really think they used their real names and passports?  What nobody seems to realise is that the fact that their passport numbers were sequential not only shows that they were false names but more importantly, ONLY THE RUSSIAN STATE can provide new, sequential passports like that which is evidence that they were working for state security as opposed to being rogue agents moonlighting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
melthebell   862 #1386 Posted September 26, 2018 What nobody seems to realise is that the fact that their passport numbers were sequential not only shows that they were false names but more importantly, ONLY THE RUSSIAN STATE can provide new, sequential passports like that which is evidence that they were working for state security as opposed to being rogue agents moonlighting. ive not seen both passports close up tbh to notice lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
janie48 Â Â 92 #1387 Posted September 26, 2018 not really, do you really think they used their real names and passports? When they appeared on Russian TV with an implausible story of being tourists viewing the Cathedral I was suspicious, but saw no reason to be certain they were concealing their true identity without someone recognising who they were. Â Now that the true identity of one of them has been revealed I wouldn't be at all surprised if other details were being kept secret. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Top Cats Hat   10 #1388 Posted September 26, 2018 ive not seen both passports close up tbh to notice lol  Not only were these passports sequentially numbered but were apparently part of a batch of sequential passport numbers issued to others suspected of being GRU agents.  If so, that is a massive blunder by the Russian intelligence agency. All modern immigration systems scan and log passport details in their own databases. That makes it incredibly easy for any state where those passports were used, to look for trends.  If a batch of Russian passports numbered 71 1232845 to 71 1232855 contained the two Skripal dudes and two other known GRU agents then we most likely have the passport numbers of six other agents and therefore their cover names if they ever travel outside Russia.  Amateur in the extreme!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Lockdoctor   10 #1389 Posted September 27, 2018 Not only were these passports sequentially numbered but were apparently part of a batch of sequential passport numbers issued to others suspected of being GRU agents. If so, that is a massive blunder by the Russian intelligence agency. All modern immigration systems scan and log passport details in their own databases. That makes it incredibly easy for any state where those passports were used, to look for trends.  If a batch of Russian passports numbered 71 1232845 to 71 1232855 contained the two Skripal dudes and two other known GRU agents then we most likely have the passport numbers of six other agents and therefore their cover names if they ever travel outside Russia.  Amateur in the extreme!! Well explained. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
davyboy   17 #1390 Posted September 27, 2018 Not only were these passports sequentially numbered but were apparently part of a batch of sequential passport numbers issued to others suspected of being GRU agents. If so, that is a massive blunder by the Russian intelligence agency. All modern immigration systems scan and log passport details in their own databases. That makes it incredibly easy for any state where those passports were used, to look for trends.  If a batch of Russian passports numbered 71 1232845 to 71 1232855 contained the two Skripal dudes and two other known GRU agents then we most likely have the passport numbers of six other agents and therefore their cover names if they ever travel outside Russia.  Amateur in the extreme!!  Why would this info be released into the public domain, thus letting the GRU know they had made a big mistake. They could then issue new passports to their agents.....new names and non sequential numbers? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Top Cats Hat   10 #1391 Posted September 27, 2018 Why would this info be released into the public domain, thus letting the GRU know they had made a big mistake. They could then issue new passports to their agents.....new names and non sequential numbers?  Presumably at some point, someone decided that it was more important to publicly show that the Skripals' poisoners were definitely killed under the instruction of the Russian state than any other intelligence gathered.  Two supposed 'friends on a sightseeing tour' who happened to have passports issued on the same day from the same passport office with sequential numbers is pretty damning evidence that these two people were sent by the Russian state.  (of course, it could just be a massive coincidence! ) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Lockdoctor   10 #1392 Posted September 27, 2018 It's clear the UK authorities release information into the public domain at a time of their own choice, which seems to be working well in exposing the Russian fairy tales to the World. The Russian authorities will have worked out for themselves it was a schoolboy error having sequential passport numbers for their agents. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...