Calahonda   11 #37 Posted July 12, 2018 I think you would find that obtaining pecuniary advantage is in fact illegal...  OK, but who do they send the fine demand to, the police won’t be interested? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Obelix   11 #38 Posted July 12, 2018 OK, but who do they send the fine demand to, the police won’t be interested?  IF you've obscured the plate to do so they could very well be... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Calahonda   11 #39 Posted July 12, 2018 IF you've obscured the plate to do so they could very well be...  Yes, they are on the look out for serious cases like this, there’s so many of them with so much time on their hands. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Obelix   11 #40 Posted July 12, 2018 If you are willing to do the criminal penalty for it then go ahead... me I'll stick with the mere civil penalties that are fairly easy to defeat... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Top Cats Hat   10 #41 Posted July 12, 2018 these cases DO get taken to court and the companies DO win (sometimes).  The companies will always win if you respond to their threatening letters as the very act of doing so is an admission that they have a right to levy a charge on you for parking.  I have yet to hear of even one case that has proceeded to court where the driver has had no contact with the parking companies. Why would they waste money chasing a debt they will almost certainly never recover when there are thousands of people offering themselves on a plate to their enforcement sections? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Obelix   11 #42 Posted July 12, 2018 The companies will always win if you respond to their threatening letters as the very act of doing so is an admission that they have a right to levy a charge on you for parking. I have yet to hear of even one case that has proceeded to court where the driver has had no contact with the parking companies. Why would they waste money chasing a debt they will almost certainly never recover when there are thousands of people offering themselves on a plate to their enforcement sections?  There are oodles of cases that get to court - people find out after ignoring the letters and then find there is an unregisted CCJ to pay anda trashed credit rating. Ignoring the letters is the very worst thing you can do since POFA was enacted in 2012. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Calahonda   11 #43 Posted July 12, 2018 If you are willing to do the criminal penalty for it then go ahead... me I'll stick with the mere civil penalties that are fairly easy to defeat...  There is a world beyond your keyboard and monitor, ‘criminal penalty’ for god’s sake, go get yourself a life in the real world. I just used a bit of amusing press and you go into hypo forum warrior mode, I despair of folk like you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Obelix   11 #44 Posted July 12, 2018 There is a world beyond your keyboard and monitor, ‘criminal penalty’ for god’s sake, go get yourself a life in the real world. I just used a bit of amusing press and you go into hypo forum warrior mode, I despair of folk like you.  Sadly there are folk in the real world that would do your suggestions. Now if you want to get all prickly about it feel free.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
nikki-red   307 #45 Posted July 12, 2018 The personal comments and bickering can end here.  Back on topic please. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
zoco   10 #46 Posted July 12, 2018 The companies will always win if you respond to their threatening letters as the very act of doing so is an admission that they have a right to levy a charge on you for parking. I have yet to hear of even one case that has proceeded to court where the driver has had no contact with the parking companies. Why would they waste money chasing a debt they will almost certainly never recover when there are thousands of people offering themselves on a plate to their enforcement sections?  Maybe you should stick to the 'Consequences of Brexit' thread that you habitually frequent where your opinions can do no real harm. As opposed to this one where your mis-information could lead to somebody unfortunate enough to take your poor advice, ending up with a county court judgement against them.  The personal comments and bickering can end here.  Back on topic please.  Not for the first time I will suggest that this subject is made a sticky and potential posters are pointed to pepipoo.com or MSE forums. These are dedicated sites giving current and relevant advice to posters on how to properly deal with private parking tickets and are not generally frequented by armchair lawyers as seems to happen on SF whenever these threads start. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Waldo   96 #47 Posted July 12, 2018 The companies will always win if you respond to their threatening letters as the very act of doing so is an admission that they have a right to levy a charge on you for parking. I have yet to hear of even one case that has proceeded to court where the driver has had no contact with the parking companies. Why would they waste money chasing a debt they will almost certainly never recover when there are thousands of people offering themselves on a plate to their enforcement sections?  It does happen.  I ignored all correspondence from them for 5 years or so, until it got to the stage where court proceedings were initiated. At that point, you HAVE to respond (to the court, and also send copies to the claimant). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Top Cats Hat   10 #48 Posted July 12, 2018 Maybe you should stick to the 'Consequences of Brexit' thread that you habitually frequent where your opinions can do no real harm. As opposed to this one where your mis-information could lead to somebody unfortunate enough to take your poor advice, ending up with a county court judgement against them.  Haha, I have a stalker lol!  If you are going to stalk me at least have the decency to read my posts properly. I have never advised people to ignore court proceedings. What I have said is that if you ignore the series of threatening letters you are MUCH LESS LIKELY to be pursued through the courts. The vast majority of legal action is against those who have corresponded with the parking companies. And the vast majority of these actions are successful because they are defended on the grounds of 'I think the amount charged is a bit harsh' which won't wash in a court where you have already acknowledged the parking company's right to levy any charge they see fit.  This is not opinion, it is fact. The vast majority of cases where the motorist appeals the invoice result in successful action by the parking companies. The vast majority of cases where the motorists ignore the threatening letters end in no further action.  It's a no brainier, as they say. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...