hackey lad   3,980 #121 Posted March 10, 2018 Doesn’t look good if they’re giving out conflicting info - never said otherwise. What do you think of the fitzalan sq proposals?  Do you just post on here , without reading other posters comments ? See post 53 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Guest makapaka   #122 Posted March 10, 2018 Do you just post on here , without reading other posters comments ? See post 53  Sorry I did miss that.  Well each to their own. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
AlexAtkin   10 #123 Posted March 11, 2018 (edited) People forget these were or ornamental trees - they weren’t planted to sustain the environment- they were just to look pretty. The council aren’t chopping woodland down - they’re replacing ornamental trees.  That may be so, but when the same council are talking about how we badly need to improve the pollution level in the city centre - chopping down ANY healthy mature tree is not the way to go about it.  Personally its not the grubby look of the area that stopped me hanging around that part of town, its the pollution from the constant flow of buses. I don't see how redesigning the area is going to make a big enough difference to that. Edited March 11, 2018 by AlexAtkin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
onewheeldave   22 #124 Posted March 11, 2018 They were nowhere in sight before Christmas around Hillsborough or Shirecliffe, very strange seeing how they are trying to keep the city green, well their half of the city that is.  They were protesting elsewhere. You can't criticize people for not being able to be in two places at once. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Narden Dee   10 #125 Posted March 11, 2018 Perhaps the council should stop doing such unpopular things that they have to take their own councillors to court and use the police to interfere with legitimate protests then...  maybe if people werent breaking the law and putting themselves and others in danger then the council wouldnt have to, you can protest without moving fences hanging onto branches being fed into as chipper etc etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
AlexAtkin   10 #126 Posted March 11, 2018 maybe if people werent breaking the law and putting themselves and others in danger then the council wouldnt have to, you can protest without moving fences hanging onto branches being fed into as chipper etc etc.  If they were moving fences its most likely because they have been protesting about Amey not using the correct brackets for holding the fences together. They have been using normal cable ties instead of proper fence ties or the metal brackets the fences were originally supplied with by the manufacturer.  Its not just about them felling trees that didn't need felling, its also about them not doing it to correct safety standards. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Eater Sundae   12 #127 Posted March 11, 2018 First of all, that's bobbins. Second, I don't think anyone knew Amey were going to hack the trees. Thirdly, are you admitting in your post that tree felling has a negative effect? ---------- Post added 10-03-2018 at 17:07 ----------   No one is against proper management of trees: pollarding is a decent compromise for very tall mature trees like that. I just hope they remember that trees are an asset, not a problem.  Plant suitably sized trees in appropriate places and then they wouldn't need to ve pollarded. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
AlexAtkin   10 #128 Posted March 11, 2018 (edited) Plant suitably sized trees in appropriate places and then they wouldn't need to ve pollarded.  Obviously, but you can't just fell mature trees and plant saplings to replace them without impacting wildlife and air quality.  I believe SCC actually said these particular trees didn't need much work, they are only getting rid of them because one of them would need to be removed to do the refurbishment (due to potential damage to its roots) and SCC in their infinite wisdom felt that leaving only three trees would look silly due to being asymmetric.  Honestly, you can't make this stuff up.  IMO keeping the three and planting smaller ones in the gap left from the missing tree would look BETTER. Obsessing over symmetry is insane, its not like they ever worry about that sort of thing when okaying new building developments or chopping down street trees. Edited March 11, 2018 by AlexAtkin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Bruce_Shark   10 #129 Posted March 11, 2018 If they were moving fences its most likely because they have been protesting about Amey not using the correct brackets for holding the fences together. They have been using normal cable ties instead of proper fence ties or the metal brackets the fences were originally supplied with by the manufacturer. Its not just about them felling trees that didn't need felling, its also about them not doing it to correct safety standards.  That sounds like the sort of excuse a Paparazzi would use... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Robin-H Â Â 11 #130 Posted March 11, 2018 Plant suitably sized trees in appropriate places and then they wouldn't need to ve pollarded. Â These are appropriately sized trees for the location. They are being felled, not pollarded. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Bruce_Shark   10 #131 Posted March 11, 2018 They were protesting elsewhere. You can't criticize people for not being able to be in two places at once.  So, are you saying the protesters actively chose to prioritise a different set of trees, so they must have considered these Fitzalan Square trees as less important?  (Considering STAG brag about having 9000 members, you'd have thought 1 or 2 could have been spared). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Guest makapaka   #132 Posted March 11, 2018 That may be so, but when the same council are talking about how we badly need to improve the pollution level in the city centre - chopping down ANY healthy mature tree is not the way to go about it. Personally its not the grubby look of the area that stopped me hanging around that part of town, its the pollution from the constant flow of buses. I don't see how redesigning the area is going to make a big enough difference to that.  When was the last time you were in fitzalan square? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...