Cyclone   10 #133 Posted March 13, 2019 3 hours ago, danot said: Absolutely not. And I haven't made any kind of comparison that would lead to you think I might.  I just think the issue of 'not having a baby's consent' is redundant.  And just for the record, I'm totally against FGM. Yeah, agreed. Babies can't consent to anything, despite the whole "parenting by consent" thing. Frankly mutilation is something that should be illegal even if a minor consents. Adults are different, but until 18, should be simply illegal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
danot   10 #134 Posted March 13, 2019 33 minutes ago, Cyclone said: Yeah, agreed. Babies can't consent to anything, despite the whole "parenting by consent" thing. Frankly mutilation is something that should be illegal even if a minor consents. Adults are different, but until 18, should be simply illegal.  Thing is. We're too mindful of religious and cultural diversity to ever outlaw the customary practices that signify their faith and cultural heritage. It'll never happen in my lifetime. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Cyclone   10 #135 Posted March 13, 2019 It's already outlawed... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Hots on   10 #136 Posted March 13, 2019 This was never an issue in this country until relatively recently. Funny that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
danot   10 #137 Posted March 13, 2019 53 minutes ago, Cyclone said: It's already outlawed... Should've said stamped-out. Only ever conviction was February this year though. And that's in spite of the practice still being used. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Cyclone   10 #138 Posted March 14, 2019 15 hours ago, danot said: Should've said stamped-out. Only ever conviction was February this year though. And that's in spite of the practice still being used. Very difficult for the authorities to detect isn't it. We can't stamp out burglary and that gets reported by the victims nearly 100% of the time. 16 hours ago, Hots on said: This was never an issue in this country until relatively recently. Funny that. Digital crime was never an issue before 20 years ago. Times change, try to keep up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
danot   10 #139 Posted March 14, 2019 1 minute ago, Cyclone said: Very difficult for the authorities to detect isn't it. We can't stamp out burglary and that gets reported by the victims nearly 100% of the time. If there'd been only one conviction for burglary since the 1980's I'd agree with you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Cyclone   10 #140 Posted March 14, 2019 That's my point. Burglary isn't hard to detect, because victims report. FGM is very hard to detect because victims don't report, nobody else reports, and so how are the authorities supposed to know that there is anything to investigate? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
danot   10 #141 Posted March 14, 2019 42 minutes ago, Cyclone said: That's my point. Burglary isn't hard to detect, because victims report. FGM is very hard to detect because victims don't report, nobody else reports, and so how are the authorities supposed to know that there is anything to investigate? Yearly Physical examinations of vulnerable girls? Or would this be too invasive? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Hots on   10 #142 Posted March 14, 2019 1 hour ago, Cyclone said:  Digital crime was never an issue before 20 years ago. Times change, try to keep up. I'm not really sure how to take that. "times change, try to keep up" is the sort of thing someone would say about positive change. Are you suggesting I'm a bigoted stick in the mud for not accepting genital mutilation in our country?  You surprise me every day. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Cyclone   10 #143 Posted March 14, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, danot said: Yearly Physical examinations of vulnerable girls? Or would this be too invasive? Almost certainly so. 1 hour ago, Hots on said: I'm not really sure how to take that. "times change, try to keep up" is the sort of thing someone would say about positive change. Are you suggesting I'm a bigoted stick in the mud for not accepting genital mutilation in our country?  You surprise me every day. No, not suggesting that at all. Your anti immigrant stance however, that's a different kettle of fish. Edited March 14, 2019 by Cyclone Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
danot   10 #144 Posted March 14, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Cyclone said: Almost certainly so.  Is that to examinations or it being too invasive? Edited March 14, 2019 by danot Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...