tinfoilhat   11 #349 Posted August 27, 2020 1 hour ago, El Cid said: So we should build on every piece of land, tell that to the planning department. Issues such as exceeding the Earth's carrying capacity, global warming, potential or imminent ecological collapse. Did I say we should build on every piece of land? No I did not.  Did I imply it? No I did not.  A quick google suggests we have enough brownfield sites to build 961000 dwellings. How many people are crossing the channel in dinghys? More or less than that number?  Unless you are suggesting we drown them, they’ll be adding to global warming somewhere. Now, talking of ecological collapse, what do we do about modern farming?  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
retep   68 #350 Posted August 27, 2020 6 hours ago, tinfoilhat said: Did I say we should build on every piece of land? No I did not.  Did I imply it? No I did not.  A quick google suggests we have enough brownfield sites to build 961000 dwellings. How many people are crossing the channel in dinghys? More or less than that number?  Unless you are suggesting we drown them, they’ll be adding to global warming somewhere. Now, talking of ecological collapse, what do we do about modern farming?  Where do you suggest we get the extra capacity from for these 961000 dwellings, water, electricity, gas, sewage, roads. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
El Cid   212 #351 Posted August 27, 2020 7 hours ago, tinfoilhat said: A quick google suggests we have enough brownfield sites to build 961000 dwellings. How many people are crossing the channel in dinghys? More or less than that number? The ONS states that population growth marks an increase of 0.6%, or an addition of 395,000 people, between mid-2017 and mid-2018 – the same rate of population growth as in the previous year. Net migration to the UK was estimated to be 270,000 in 2019, down from a peak of 331,000 in the year ending March 2015. If we just assume that is roughly 100,000 increase in population down to more births than deaths and people living longer, that is reflected throughout the world. When will the planet be full? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Pettytom   1 #352 Posted August 27, 2020 2 hours ago, retep said: Where do you suggest we get the extra capacity from for these 961000 dwellings, water, electricity, gas, sewage, roads. Mr Porritt has some ideas for you. This is from the website that you linked to last night.  You are correct to highlight the resources problem. All citizens of the U.K. need to start consuming fewer resources, then there will be more to go round.  https://populationmatters.org/the-facts/resources-consumption Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
retep   68 #353 Posted August 27, 2020 13 minutes ago, Pettytom said: Mr Porritt has some ideas for you. This is from the website that you linked to last night.  You are correct to highlight the resources problem. All citizens of the U.K. need to start consuming fewer resources, then there will be more to go round.  https://populationmatters.org/the-facts/resources-consumption Which puts building more housing and inviting more people to the party an act of stupidity, the site also points out "The densely-populated south-east of England is ranked in the bottom 10% of global regions for ability to supply water to its inhabitants." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
melthebell   862 #354 Posted August 27, 2020 12 hours ago, Pettytom said: Anything after 2010? he'll be turning vegan next as well as a lefty with his new found love for wildlife Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Pettytom   1 #355 Posted August 27, 2020 23 minutes ago, retep said: Which puts building more housing and inviting more people to the party an act of stupidity, the site also points out "The densely-populated south-east of England is ranked in the bottom 10% of global regions for ability to supply water to its inhabitants." You don’t get it, do you?   9 minutes ago, melthebell said: he'll be turning vegan next as well as a lefty with his new found love for wildlife Membership of  Population  Matters  is only £2:50 a month. For that, you get a newsletter and invitations to take part in group activities to ensure a sustainable future for our planet.  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
the_bloke   17 #356 Posted August 27, 2020 1 hour ago, Pettytom said: You don’t get it, do you?   Membership of  Population  Matters  is only £2:50 a month. For that, you get a newsletter and invitations to take part in group activities to ensure a sustainable future for our planet.  Do they still believe in zero net immigration to the country?  https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/opendemocracyuk/charity-which-campaigned-to-ban-syrian-refugees-from-britain/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Pettytom   1 #357 Posted August 27, 2020 27 minutes ago, the_bloke said: Do they still believe in zero net immigration to the country?  https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/opendemocracyuk/charity-which-campaigned-to-ban-syrian-refugees-from-britain/ If you look at their website, you’ll see a clear statement about that.  I can summarise for you:  No. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
PRESLEY   1,222 #358 Posted September 3, 2020 Chief Constable Mahoney is now in charge, wasn't he in Police Accadamy, Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
El Cid   212 #359 Posted September 3, 2020 On 27/08/2020 at 12:48, the_bloke said: Do they still believe in zero net immigration to the country?  https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/opendemocracyuk/charity-which-campaigned-to-ban-syrian-refugees-from-britain/ Reducing the earths and the UKs population is certainly a good aim, but the measures needed to bring it about would not be supported by enough people. We cannot even stop those in dinghies coming to the UK, never mind address the wider issue. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Jim Hardie   517 #360 Posted December 16, 2020 On 26/08/2020 at 22:25, Halibut said: What an asinine and frankly, racist, thing to say. Halibut, what’s happened to you? Missing your views on topics of the day. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...