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I assume that Fogey is going to tell me who the real culprits are at some point,if i am such a thicko then he really needs to put me on the right track with his superior intelligence.I read about quantum physics and watch all my favourite science programmes but i am obviously a complete dumpling because i voted to leave.You have to laugh.:hihi:

 

Were you just sitting on here waiting for me to enlighten you? Do you lack the sense and intelligence required to critically research the presumptions you and others have made around the myths, half truths and outright lies?

 

Every leaver I have discussed the matter with has failed to back their claims up with anything other than, - it says in the newspaper (and you've guessed it, - its the Mail), or I was talking to someone in the pub, or somebody shared it on facebook. In the end it usually becomes something about too many foreigners. Every claim I have seen made by the Remain side that I have gone and researched has turned out to be well corroborated. Which I admit did surprise me.

 

I suggest the people you should be looking to are successive BRITISH governments and their incredibly rich donors and media backers who have vested interests in having access to cheap labour sources, who want it to be easier for bigger businesses to keep wages down, who want to erode workers rights, or further weaken the controls placed on their own industries.

 

Reading something doesn't make you clever, even something as technical as quantum physics, my education taught me to do something much more important, - it taught me to critically evaluate the information others were trying to spoon feed me.

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Voting brexit definitely has a wiff of xenophobia to it, that and outright idiocy.

 

Do we really have to list the many none white Brexiteers?

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Do we really have to list the many none white Brexiteers?
Do you believe that white people have a monopoly on xenophobia and idiocy?

 

Arguably the non-white Brexit vote was actually very smart, intending as it does to replace cheap EU labour with cheap(er) non-EU labour.

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Were you just sitting on here waiting for me to enlighten you? Do you lack the sense and intelligence required to critically research the presumptions you and others have made around the myths, half truths and outright lies?

 

Every leaver I have discussed the matter with has failed to back their claims up with anything other than, - it says in the newspaper (and you've guessed it, - its the Mail), or I was talking to someone in the pub, or somebody shared it on facebook. In the end it usually becomes something about too many foreigners. Every claim I have seen made by the Remain side that I have gone and researched has turned out to be well corroborated. Which I admit did surprise me.

 

I suggest the people you should be looking to are successive BRITISH governments and their incredibly rich donors and media backers who have vested interests in having access to cheap labour sources, who want it to be easier for bigger businesses to keep wages down, who want to erode workers rights, or further weaken the controls placed on their own industries.

 

Reading something doesn't make you clever, even something as technical as quantum physics, my education taught me to do something much more important, - it taught me to critically evaluate the information others were trying to spoon feed me.

I have not once said that i voted to leave because of foreign workers,not once.My best friend is an immigrant why would i not like foreigners.I voted leave because i believe the European union to be an undemocratic organisation of unelected individuals telling us which countries we can deal with outside the eu,and imposing import taxes on these items.The eu does not seem to recognise democracy or fair world trade.The debacle of trying to deport criminals and terrorists who cost the country millions of pounds after some judge in Brussels decided it was against their human rights.Stop insinuating that everybody who voted leave is a xenophobe or racist.Most of these lies are being peddled by the young and especially the millennial champagne socialists.And on a note i do not read the Daily Mail or any other newspaper,i have better things to spend money on than newspapers.

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Do we really have to list the many none white Brexiteers?

 

Do you think that not being white stops you being xenophobic?

 

Equal opportunities xenophobia, no need for your discrimination.

 

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W Do you lack the sense and intelligence required to critically research the presumptions you and others have made around the myths, half truths and outright lies?

 

Possibly they do.

And if not they are simply avoiding the cognitive dissonance that will come from confirming their fears that they were mislead.

 

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If say we had a population of 10, and three of those wore size 10 shoes and seven wore size 1, the mean average shoe size is 3.7. Seventy percent of the population wear a below average shoe size.

 

The same can be applied to intelligence measured by IQ.

 

50 percent of the population would be below the median and the same above.

 

That would be true if intelligence didn't follow a bell curve distribution and have a much larger sample size. :roll:

 

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I already had.

 

You were asked if you thought anyone who voted differently to you was an idiot.

 

You replied saying you believe 50% of people are below average intelligence.

 

Unless you were saying peoples intelligence was below average then your comment was totally meaningless. What was the purpose of making that point?

 

It was a quip, a minor witticism, but some people would argue that a clear daytime sky wasn't blue if someone else said that it was.

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I already had.

 

You were asked if you thought anyone who voted differently to you was an idiot.

 

You replied saying you believe 50% of people are below average intelligence.

 

Unless you were saying peoples intelligence was below average then your comment was totally meaningless. What was the purpose of making that point?

 

He was trying to insinuate that the 51.89 % who voted to leave are of below average intelligence.I think its an attempt at wit.

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Back on topic please, we already have a Brexit thread.

 

 

Thank you.

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Won't increased competition from oversea/EU students disadvantage the native population from getting into UNI?

Similar to the current demand on the NHS. The native population hasn't increased in size as much compared to the newcomers on top of everyone all living longer will serious illnesses that don't kill us straight away. Instead we end up needing long term palliative care. The countries infrastructure has never increased to cope with such a demand.

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No survey needs to have been done. By definition in a (non homogenous) group 50% of the group will be below and 50% above the average. It's inherent in the very definition of what an average is.

I do think it, and I think it because it's a statistical certainty, a truism, it was in fact a little bit of a play on words based on what average means.

 

Here's what you said. No mention of how that population is distributed, not that it is in any way relevant to determining the mean average.

 

My example used a non-homogenous group, and showed that less than 50 percent were above average.

 

Mean average is simply calculated by summing the data points and dividing by the number of data points.

 

It isn't defined as the "50% of the group will be below and 50% above the average".

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I have not once said that i voted to leave because of foreign workers,not once.My best friend is an immigrant why would i not like foreigners.I voted leave because i believe the European union to be an undemocratic organisation of unelected individuals telling us which countries we can deal with outside the eu,and imposing import taxes on these items.The eu does not seem to recognise democracy or fair world trade.The debacle of trying to deport criminals and terrorists who cost the country millions of pounds after some judge in Brussels decided it was against their human rights.Stop insinuating that everybody who voted leave is a xenophobe or racist.Most of these lies are being peddled by the young and especially the millennial champagne socialists.And on a note i do not read the Daily Mail or any other newspaper,i have better things to spend money on than newspapers.

 

My response to this appears to have been removed, - presumably by a mod because of the ongoing brexit theme. So I have posted a new response over on the brexit thread.

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Here's what you said. No mention of how that population is distributed, not that it is in any way relevant to determining the mean average.

 

My example used a non-homogenous group, and showed that less than 50 percent were above average.

 

Mean average is simply calculated by summing the data points and dividing by the number of data points.

 

It isn't defined as the "50% of the group will be below and 50% above the average".

 

No mention of how the population is distributed, well, I apologise for not explaining that intelligence is a normal distribution. Now you know.

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Personally, I think there is more chance of a UK resident to suffer crime from an EU migrant than vice versa. Just google it. For more rapes, murders and violent crimes from migrants.

 

PS I once did some research into Trumps "Mexicans are rapists" statement and was shocked.

 

One state, can't remember which one, maybe Texas reported (the stats are there if you want to look) 800 women along the border (I know its a large area) were raped by Mexican illegal immigrants. The data also stated that "Coyotes" the name for traffickers and not the wild dogs rape 80% of the women who enter the USA through this route...

 

This is where Trumps states, "they send us their rapists".... meaning Mexico does nothing to stop them crossing the border...

 

I'll try to find the data...

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