Naive   10 #13 Posted January 9, 2018 Dont worry mate, I always take water with it....  Haha. If only homeopathy worked with Whisky Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Bonzo77 Â Â 13 #14 Posted January 9, 2018 I was once advised by my GP to try some Homeopathic medicine when I was struggling with anxiety. Didn't help much. I have heard that Bush flower or Bach flower remedies do work with some people, though I'm a little sceptical myself. Reflexology sounds a load of hooey to me. Â I thought homeopathy had more or less been proven to be nothing but a scam? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Robin-H   11 #15 Posted January 9, 2018 I thought homeopathy had more or less been proven to be nothing but a scam?  It has absolutely been proven to be nothing but a scam.  ---------- Post added 09-01-2018 at 09:50 ----------  There is literally zero evidence to support homeopathy beyond placebo effect (which is a strong effect, but no different to sugar pills). The theory is full of inconsistencies, holes and is not supported by any known scientific method. Why should anyone be told to try a treatment that does not work?    You can overdose on homeopathy... it's called drowning  I knew someone who overdosed on homeopathy once. He woke up one morning and forget to take it.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
onewheeldave   22 #16 Posted January 9, 2018 There is literally zero evidence to support homeopathy beyond placebo effect (which is a strong effect, but no different to sugar pills).  So homeopathy is as effective as placebo, which is a 'strong effect'?  Placebo treatment is not available (classed as medically unethical), but homeopathy treatment is available... and, in your words, is a 'strong effect'. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
geared   268 #17 Posted January 9, 2018 Flower Remedies??  Is that even a thing?  ---------- Post added 09-01-2018 at 11:02 ----------  So homeopathy is as effective as placebo, which is a 'strong effect'? Placebo treatment is not available (classed as medically unethical), but homeopathy treatment is available... and, in your words, is a 'strong effect'.  By your reasoning Milk Shake and Coke is just as effective then.  because they would be no more effective as a placebo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
cgksheff   44 #18 Posted January 9, 2018 ......... By your reasoning Milk Shake and Coke is just as effective then.  because they would be no more effective as a placebo.  No. Placebos can have an effect, which usually requires a belief of effectiveness. For Milk Shake or Coke to have a placebo effect, the user would need to believe that they would be effective, which is much less likely than a belief in expensive mumbo-jumbo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
barleycorn   10 #19 Posted January 9, 2018 Maybe you should try these very old therapies before you diss them..... None of them are very old and all are bunkem. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
jane91 Â Â 10 #20 Posted January 9, 2018 This is really interesting listening to what you all think of these alternative therapy's. Â Have any of you actually tired the ones on the poll? If so how long for or why did you stop? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
alchresearch   206 #21 Posted January 9, 2018 Maybe you should try these very old therapies before you diss them.....  Are you thinking of herbalism and medicinal plants? They are truly old natural remedies.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medicinal_plants  But the ones in the poll above aren't. I thought "Flower Remedies" was another name for herbalism at first. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
onewheeldave   22 #22 Posted January 9, 2018 Flower Remedies?? Is that even a thing?  ---------- Post added 09-01-2018 at 11:02 ----------   By your reasoning Milk Shake and Coke is just as effective then.  because they would be no more effective as a placebo.   Placebo is about context- eating sugar pills alone won't produce an effect, when given in the contexts that constitute placebo, they do have an effect.  The exact reasons why placebo has an effect are not yet established- as cgksheff mentions, belief is likely a factor. I would suggest authority is likely to be another, as people do tend to believe in/have faith in authority figures (doctors, whether orthodox or otherwise). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
jane91   10 #23 Posted January 9, 2018 Are you thinking of herbalism and medicinal plants? They are truly old natural remedies.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medicinal_plants  But the ones in the poll above aren't. I thought "Flower Remedies" was another name for herbalism at first.  It is very much the same thing I believe, Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
onewheeldave   22 #24 Posted January 9, 2018 It is very much the same thing I believe,  No, herbal remedies definitely have physical effects- they contain active substances. Herbalism lies at the roots of modern pharmaceutical medicine.  Flower remedies are more akin to homeopathy, which are diluted to the extent that there is no active ingredient contained (then, in the case of flower remedies, mixed 50/50 with brandy)  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bach_flower_remedies Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...