danot 10 #445 Posted March 8, 2019 1 minute ago, Cyclone said: Explain how that would work then, given the explanation of what positive action is that you've been given multiple times. Examiners only pass so many per year, irrespective of whether they should have passed or not. The question is, who should he fail. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Cyclone 10 #446 Posted March 8, 2019 43 minutes ago, danot said: Examiners only pass so many per year, irrespective of whether they should have passed or not. The question is, who should he fail. That's not positive action is it, not even similar to it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
alchresearch 214 #447 Posted March 8, 2019 1 hour ago, danot said: Examiners only pass so many per year, irrespective of whether they should have passed or not. The question is, who should he fail. I thought that was a myth to make people who fail their test feel better? https://www.theaa.com/cars/news/hot-topics/driving-test-myths-12825.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Halibut 12 #448 Posted March 8, 2019 2 hours ago, danot said: Examiners only pass so many per year, irrespective of whether they should have passed or not. The question is, who should he fail. Bit light on facts there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
danot 10 #449 Posted March 8, 2019 3 hours ago, alchresearch said: I thought that was a myth to make people who fail their test feel better? https://www.theaa.com/cars/news/hot-topics/driving-test-myths-12825.html The driving standards agency sets quotas that all examiner's have to keep their pass rates in line with. That's a fact. It's around the 47% mark I believe. In fact, there's one article which I'll try to find that tells of an examiner who was sacked for not meeting his quota, only hitting the 30% mark. But back to my question. What percentage of the 47% quota should we reserve for the disadvantaged we've spoke about? 50%? One in three? One in ten? What would be fair? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
SnailyBoy 10 #450 Posted March 8, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, danot said: The driving standards agency sets quotas that all examiner's have to keep their pass rates in line with. That's a fact. It's around the 47% mark I believe. In fact, there's one article which I'll try to find that tells of an examiner who was sacked for not meeting his quota, only hitting the 30% mark. But back to my question. What percentage of the 47% quota should we reserve for the disadvantaged we've spoke about? 50%? One in three? One in ten? What would be fair? That's not a fact and driving tests have nothing to do with Positive Action. Edited March 8, 2019 by SnailyBoy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
danot 10 #451 Posted March 8, 2019 8 minutes ago, SnailyBoy said: That's not a fact and driving tests have nothing to do with Positive Action. National pass rate figures don't lie. Are you sure you know the meaning of positive action? It's the implimentation of any of a wide range of measures designed to minimise disadvantage, or meet the needs of a disadvantaged group. It isn t restricted to the work place if that's what you're suggesting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
SnailyBoy 10 #452 Posted March 8, 2019 18 minutes ago, danot said: National pass rate figures don't lie. Are you sure you know the meaning of positive action? It's the implimentation of any of a wide range of measures designed to minimise disadvantage, or meet the needs of a disadvantaged group. It isn t restricted to the work place if that's what you're suggesting. *which doesn't include driving tests Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
danot 10 #453 Posted March 8, 2019 6 minutes ago, SnailyBoy said: *which doesn't include driving tests What doesn't include driving tests? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
SnailyBoy 10 #454 Posted March 8, 2019 1 minute ago, danot said: What doesn't include driving tests? Positive Action Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
WiseOwl182 10 #455 Posted March 8, 2019 9 hours ago, Cyclone said: Two equal candidates. You have to decide between them somehow and your organisation through unconscious bias has an under representation of a particular demographic. Should you flip a coin? Or decide to hire the person from the previously under represented group? Flipping a coin will disadvantage someone, because only 1 of the 2 is getting the job. Yes flip a coin. At least that way someone loses out due to random luck rather than discrimination against their skin colour or gender. 9 hours ago, Cyclone said: How can someone answer a question about a hypothetical situation you've made up? Because it wasn't my hypothetical question, it was your mate SnailyBoy's. He was trying to get me to answer a hypothetical question without filling in any details for me to inform my answer. You shot yourself in the foot there. 7 hours ago, leviathan13 said: Yet more evidence of white privilege! https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-47468011 There's even inequality and racism within the black community! Some people are simply obsessed with skin colour. I was miffed that Will Smith was given the part of Aladdin and blued himself up, denying a real blue skinned actor the part. I thought that was being picky but this is another level. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Car Boot 10 #456 Posted March 8, 2019 Equality to the out of touch BBC means 'no men'. Just ask BBC Newcastle regional radio. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...