leviathan13 Â Â 350 #589 Posted March 11, 2019 3 minutes ago, Halibut said: Mildly inconvenienced at worst. He'll find another job. But he won't if his skin colour is a barrier... do you not see the irony in your comment? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Halibut   12 #590 Posted March 11, 2019 Just now, leviathan13 said: But he won't if his skin colour is a barrier... do you not see the irony in your comment? He's white. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
WiseOwl182   10 #591 Posted March 11, 2019 1 minute ago, SnailyBoy said: Your question is flawed demonstrating a lack of understanding of the Equality Act and recruitment when using Positive Action. Try to simplify it so it can work without having to resort to assumptions.   My question is illustrating the actual scenario. Your question is an irrelevant distraction based on dishing out fivers. And you have the audacity to say mine is the flawed one? 1 minute ago, Halibut said: He's white. Exactly. So based on "positive action" he's going to lose out every time he's equally qualified. Do you really strive for equality or do you just hate white men? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
leviathan13   350 #592 Posted March 11, 2019 Just now, Halibut said: He's white. Exactly - so if black people automatically have an advantage just for being black, then he's going to struggle.  Unless you're now claiming that black people aren't as disadvantaged to try and prove your point... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
SnailyBoy   10 #593 Posted March 11, 2019 Just now, WiseOwl182 said: My question is illustrating the actual scenario. Your question is an irrelevant distraction based on dishing out fivers. And you have the audacity to say mine is the flawed one? Lol, maybe a scenario in your head.  An an employer that, what was it, 'suddenly realises'?  Brilliant 😊  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Halibut   12 #594 Posted March 11, 2019 7 minutes ago, WiseOwl182 said:  Exactly. So based on "positive action" he's going to lose out every time he's equally qualified. Do you really strive for equality or do you just hate white men? Nonsense. That assumes that positive action happens across the board, which it clearly doesn't. Besides, since black and ethnic minority people represent only 13% of the population, so frankly, you're getting your knickers in a twist about nothing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
nikki-red   308 #595 Posted March 11, 2019 Posts have been removed. Please dont keep posting the exact same thing over and over. Also, if you have any comments regarding moderation please raise them at the Helpdesk. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
SnailyBoy   10 #596 Posted March 11, 2019 Just now, WiseOwl182 said: The employer realises that, through no fault of Person A, they have previously given too many jobs to people who share Person A's skin colour. That's the part, thanks  Once again, brilliant.  If you're going to try and replicate the real world, at least make it believable and how an employer would actually recruit and not some fantasy to satisfy your own agenda.   Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
WiseOwl182   10 #597 Posted March 11, 2019 1 minute ago, Halibut said: Nonsense. That assumes that positive action happens across the board, which it clearly doesn't. Besides, since black and ethnic minority people represent only 13% of the population, so frankly, you're getting your knickers in a twist about nothing. Frankly, your argument is that discrimination is ok going one way, but unacceptable going the other. It's not just about race, it's gender, sexuality, religion, etc etc. There should be no discrimination either way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
SnailyBoy   10 #598 Posted March 11, 2019 18 minutes ago, leviathan13 said: I don't get what you're trying to explain with this analogy - all you're saying is that, if everyone is given £10 then that's equality.  But it depends on the person's situatuation who is receiving it as to whether it's fair or not.  And, why is someone randomly dishing out £10s?? You don't need to dig that deep.  There is no 'situation' for a person to get the £10.   Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
leviathan13   350 #599 Posted March 11, 2019 Just now, SnailyBoy said: You don't need to dig that deep.  There is no 'situation' for a person to get the £10.   So what is the point of your analogy, other than to say it's fair if everyone is given £10? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
WiseOwl182 Â Â 10 #600 Posted March 11, 2019 5 minutes ago, nikki-red said: Posts have been removed. Please dont keep posting the exact same thing over and over. Also, if you have any comments regarding moderation please raise them at the Helpdesk. Thanks, I've reported all the SnailyBoy re-posts to assist your moderation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...