Jerusalem the new capital of Israel, what difference will it make?

[El Cid 220]

I think you are getting confused. East Jerusalem was annexed in 1967 after the war in that year. Israel was established in 1948 and the war started immediately. West Jerusalem has never been annexed.

 

You also said - "Lockdoctor View Post - Don't all the centuries that Jerusalem has been the holiest city for Jewish people count?

 

But "Israel was established in 1948" and it was occupied by all faiths.

[Lockdoctor 10]

You also said - "Lockdoctor View Post - Don't all the centuries that Jerusalem has been the holiest city for Jewish people count?

 

But "Israel was established in 1948" and it was occupied by all faiths.

Yes the state of Israel was established in 1948 and Jewish people were around for centuries before Israel was formed. It was you who said the Jewish people had only occupied Jerusalem for decades, which is wrong.

[mafya 248]

Interesting article by Robert Fisk titled “ How long after this week's Gaza massacre are we going to continue pretending that the Palestinians are non-people?”

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/gaza-palestine-israel-conflict-us-embassy-jerusalem-jared-kushner-donald-trump-a8355631.html

 

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If Hamas stopped launching rockets from school playgrounds into Israel you'd have the makings of a point. But they haven't and you don't.

 

How many shekels are you getting for repeating the Zionist propaganda like a good little has bars troll?

Do Palestinian lives not count for anything?

[El Cid 220]

Yes the state of Israel was established in 1948 and Jewish people were around for centuries before Israel was formed. It was you who said the Jewish people had only occupied Jerusalem for decades, which is wrong.

 

In early 16th century, Jerusalem was largely Muslim, but gradually gained Jewish and Christian populations - giving rise to the still existing division of the Old City of Jerusalem to Christian, Armenian, Jewish and Muslim Quarters.

 

Since mid-19th century Jews had become the largest group in Jerusalem, which continued into British Mandate period and until the 1948 war.

 

The rejection of the "Right of return" after the 1948 and 1967 wars is motivated by the intention to maintain a Jewish majority, in Israel as well as in Jerusalem.

[ENG601PM 10]

How many shekels are you getting for repeating the Zionist propaganda like a good little has bars troll?

Do Palestinian lives not count for anything?

 

It is the simple truth. Hamas is responsible for those deaths. It is akin to suicide by police.

 

Please don't try to use "Zionist" as an insult with me. I fully support Irsael's right to exist as an independent nation, as I do a Palestinian state. You may wish to check what Zionism is because to you might find that you are a Zionist too.

[Halibut 12]

It is the simple truth. Hamas is responsible for those deaths. It is akin to suicide by police.

 

 

The Israel army shot those people dead. They weren't a threat to life and limb.

 

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Israel isn't at war, it is defending itself with remarkable Western style restraint.

 

You think killing 60 unarmed civilians shows 'remarkable restraint'?

 

Really?

[ENG601PM 10]

The Israel army shot those people dead. They weren't a threat to life and limb.

 

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You think killing 60 unarmed civilians shows 'remarkable restraint'?

 

Really?

You and I both know that Hamas's avowed intent is to do to Israel what Israel won't do to them - to exterminate the nation of Israel. Israelis could wipe Palestinians off the map but time and time again they don't, even while Hamas fire rockets at Israeli civilians from Palestinian schoolyards.

 

So yes , they showed remarkable (albeit their usual) restraint in the face of an armed invasion force of tens of thousands at the border fence. The kind of restraint only possible to a nation that could bring F16's to bear on the protesters at a moment's notice is they so wished.

[Halibut 12]

You and I both know that Hamas's avowed intent is to do to Israel what Israel won't do to them - to exterminate the nation of Israel. Israelis could wipe Palestinians off the map but time and time again they don't, even while Hamas fire rockets at Israeli civilians from Palestinian schoolyards.

 

So yes , they showed remarkable (albeit their usual) restraint in the face of an armed invasion force of tens of thousands at the border fence. The kind of restraint only possible to a nation that could bring F16's to bear on the protesters at a moment's notice is they so wished.

 

If you think soldiers with automatic weapons, behind a secure fence, killing civilians armed only with stones and posing no immediate risk to life or limb is justifiable, I repeat my assertion that you are morally insane.

[Branyy 10]

If you think soldiers with automatic weapons, behind a secure fence, killing civilians armed only with stones and posing no immediate risk to life or limb is justifiable, I repeat my assertion that you are morally insane.

 

Attacking armed policemen/soldiers, especially at country's borders, and expecting not getting hurt/killed is insane.

[ENG601PM 10]

Suicide by cop

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_by_cop

 

I repeat my assertion that you are morally insane.

 

Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear.

[Halibut 12]

Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear.

 

Yes, your desperately poor attempts to justify the slaughter of men, women and children who have the temerity to protest at the many injustices wrought upon them are truly 'oh dear'.

[ENG601PM 10]

Yes, your desperately poor attempts to justify the slaughter of men, women and children who have the temerity to protest at the many injustices wrought upon them are truly 'oh dear'.

 

I support a peaceful two state solution but I find it impossible to defend an organisation or state that wants to achieve its aims by firing rockets at civilians from schoolyards, or sends an army of fighters and civilians to the secure and armed border of a sovereign state. You seem fine with it, as is your right.

 

I am biting my tongue quite hard but please keep wagging yours. Sunlight is still the best disinfectant for awful opinions, especially antisemitism.