alchresearch   206 #1009 Posted March 22, 2018 Made the front page of BBC News today:  http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-43488373/anger-over-sheffield-s-plan-to-fell-healthy-trees Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Eccy Beach   11 #1010 Posted March 22, 2018 Sheffield no longer on Sunday Times' list of best places to live due to tree felling protests - take a bow folks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
nightrider   13 #1011 Posted March 22, 2018 Sheffield no longer on Sunday Times' list of best places to live due to tree felling protests - take a bow folks.  Unfortunately I have found when travelling abroad, quite often the first thing people mention about Sheffield is the tree felling and how awful it is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Cyclone   10 #1012 Posted March 22, 2018 Sheffield no longer on Sunday Times' list of best places to live due to tree felling protests - take a bow folks.  Take a bow SCC. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
sheffbag   224 #1013 Posted March 22, 2018 (edited) Sheffield no longer on Sunday Times' list of best places to live due to tree felling protests - take a bow folks.  like...wow, I'm sure the Times reading public will be devastated by that, really.  I'm off to Devon soon, i'll ask friends there what they think of Sheffield, I'm sure the first thing they will say is that it isn't on the Times best places to live because of tree felling.  what a load of complete <removed> and a waste of time.  on a different note, Rotherham made the crap town list top 20 of 2018. No tree felling there Edited March 22, 2018 by nikki-red Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
WarPig   70 #1014 Posted March 22, 2018 (edited) Can you not have feelings about an organisation?  Penistone999 has referred to every single police officer, which I find quite strange. It kind of invalidates his/her opinions by saying such sweeping statements, but it does give a glimpse into his/her mindset I suppose.  What about people from other employments/organisations/groups/cultures/backgrounds, is it ok to hate absolutely all of them just because they belong to that group? I would suggest not, and i had hoped society was moving away from displaying that kind of behaviour. Edited March 22, 2018 by WarPig Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
nightrider   13 #1015 Posted March 22, 2018 Penistone999 has referred to every single police officer, which I find quite strange. It kind of invalidates his/her opinions by saying such sweeping statements, but it does give a glimpse into his/her mindset I suppose. What about people from other employments/organisations/groups/cultures/backgrounds, is it ok to hate absolutely all of them just because they belong to that group? I would suggest not, and i had hoped society was moving away from displaying that kind of behaviour.  Unless SYP have picked a certain type of officer for the tree protests, then one might presume its a reasonable sample of normal policeman. In which case one might worry about how they all behave. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
WarPig   70 #1016 Posted March 22, 2018 Unless SYP have picked a certain type of officer for the tree protests, then one might presume its a reasonable sample of normal policeman. In which case one might worry about how they all behave.  How can the behaviour of some, be perceived as being representative of all? That suggests narrow mindedness on that persons part. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
nightrider   13 #1017 Posted March 22, 2018 How can the behaviour of some, be perceived as being representative of all? That suggests narrow mindedness on that persons part.  It could well be if the 30 officers we see at these protests are taken from a wide range of different "units" within the police. If they are all from one close-knit unit, then fair enough you could conclude its one set of bad apples being set on the tree protestors.  Also SYP already had a very poor reputation before this issue came up, so one should not view the attitudes in isolation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
WarPig   70 #1018 Posted March 22, 2018 Also SYP already had a very poor reputation before this issue came up, so one should not view the attitudes in isolation.  A reputation of an organisation is one thing, but to include every single individual within is surely extremely narrow minded at best, and prejudiced at worst. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
nightrider   13 #1019 Posted March 22, 2018 A reputation of an organisation is one thing, but to include every single individual within is surely extremely narrow minded at best, and prejudiced at worst.  I'm sure there are also good apples, but by and large I don't believe the behaviour being seen in these videos is isolated to the specific officers on video.  The NYPD had Serpico in the 1970's, but by and large most of the officers in the precincts he worked in were very corrupt. So I think its clear one can make a general statement, without it applying to every single officer. In that case the chances are, if you had no specific knowledge, a random NYPD officer in those precincts was corrupt, and you would have been wise to assume as such - despite the fact not every single one was corrupt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
WarPig   70 #1020 Posted March 22, 2018 Sorry I don't buy that. The kind of thought process demonstrated by Penistone999 would be regarded as racist, sexist, ageist etc if applied to the other certain groups.  Just because you don't like the fact a cop has arrested someone, or the way they have behaved, doesn't automatically mean you can have utter contempt for every single cop. That is extremely immature. If someone didn't like the way that one protestor had behaved, would that automatically make it ok for them to dislike every single protestor? Im pretty amazed this type of thinking is even being defended in this day and age. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...