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Now, retrospective is all well and good and we can't go back in time

 

But if we could perhaps iwe could have told people it was a stupid idea to plant woodland trees in narrow footpaths,

 

---------- Post added 08-12-2017 at 23:53 ----------

 

The mismanagement is over decades

 

And yet STAG and all he other environmentalists didn't notice this until 2015 until it they thought it would affect the environment of their locality / right on credibility/ house prices :cool:

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Look , if you lived in a house where the tree outside was blocking your light and growing up through the pavement wouldn’t you want it cut down ? They pay their council tax for this very reason.

 

Well said Pattricia that is the situation that we are in. The tree outside our house has also lifted up our garden path in several places

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But if we could perhaps iwe could have told people it was a stupid idea to plant woodland trees........

 

 

Yes.. Woodland trees.. Crazy idea... What trees would you recommend? ..non-woodland? Trees that have grown and developed in a concrete environment?

 

If you wander round the streets of Mayfair Bloomsbury and Marylebone you'll find lots of woodland trees over 100ft High... Lifting pavements and obscuring light.. Why do London councils and londoners love then and wish to retain them??

It is because they value the street scene, they recognise the calming influence of the green leaves, they see the historic value to these trees, the trees stand in testament to many generations that have walked those pavements, and in bearing witness to these things they legitimate London as a stable, well balanced and organised metropolis,..... This is recognised tacitly by visitors from tourists to business people.... It suggests the environment, is established and stable, is respected and cultured... And in recognising this they recognise the values that run through those who live and work in these places and see it is a good place to live and work and do business...... Quite unlike a freshly brewed emerging economy with its concrete and plastic facades and its micro manicured privet rows and controlled ornamental trees.... Such horrors suggest over bearing control and superficiality.... This is seems is what we are moving to..... An environment that serves no one and nothing but satisfying the imagined wallets of those who are due to profit at others expense

 

If only all sheffield residents recognised and valued Sheffield for what it is.... And hold tightly to what we have

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If you wander round the streets of Mayfair Bloomsbury and Marylebone you'll find lots of woodland trees over 100ft High... Lifting pavements and obscuring light.. Why do London councils and londoners love then and wish to retain them??

It is because they value the street scene, they recognise the calming influence of the green leaves, they see the historic value to these trees, the trees stand in testament to many generations that have walked those pavements, and in bearing witness to these things they legitimate London as a stable, well balanced and organised metropolis,..... This is recognised tacitly by visitors from tourists to business people.... It suggests the environment, is established and stable, is respected and cultured... And in recognising this they recognise the values that run through those who live and work in these places and see it is a good place to live and work and do business...... Quite unlike a freshly brewed emerging economy with its concrete and plastic facades and its micro manicured privet rows and controlled ornamental trees.... Such horrors suggest over bearing control and superficiality.... This is seems is what we are moving to..... An environment that serves no one and nothing but satisfying the imagined wallets of those who are due to profit at others expense

 

If only all sheffield residents recognised and valued Sheffield for what it is.... And hold tightly to what we have

 

Have you noticed how wide the pavements in Mayfair, Marylebone and Bloomsbury are, compared to say Crookes?

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Have you noticed how wide the pavements in Mayfair, Marylebone and Bloomsbury are, compared to say Crookes?

 

 

Yes...

 

Have a look outside the British museum.. Great Russell St.. Trees restricts pavement to less than 1.5m and this street sees over 1million tourists a year!

 

I love Crookes but I don't think it had quite that footfall

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Yes...

 

Have a look outside the British museum.. Great Russell St.. Trees restricts pavement to less than 1.5m and this street sees over 1million tourists a year!

 

 

Really?

 

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.5184484,-0.1256624,3a,75y,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s-oYNVfLZ-i8RczottNjcqA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en

 

Looks like you could drive a bus along those pavements outside the British Museum.

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Look , if you lived in a house where the tree outside was blocking your light and growing up through the pavement wouldn’t you want it cut down ? They pay their council tax for this very reason.

 

I always find it offensive when people move into a house with a tree outside then want it chopped down. The council are trying to chop down the 80+ year old tree outside my house. i don't like the houses across from my house or some of the people in them, they were here when I arrived but the council wont chop them down. There are thousands of homeless families who would give their right arm to live here, tree or no tree. why don't these people just move to a treeless area?

 

---------- Post added 09-12-2017 at 17:14 ----------

 

Look , if you lived in a house where the tree outside was blocking your light and growing up through the pavement wouldn’t you want it cut down ? They pay their council tax for this very reason.

 

Council tax is paid to maintain the trees and the pavements but has not been used for this purpose for decades. now they have the PFI contract, they are resurfacing roads and pavements but are chopping perfectly harmless and healthy trees to avoid future maintenance costs which, incidently, have already been paid for as part of the contract. Also, paid for is the cost of engineering solutions that, if implemented, would make the pavements safe and help retain the trees. doing what the council and its contractors are doing is known as fraud in most circles.

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Really?

 

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.5184484,-0.1256624,3a,75y,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s-oYNVfLZ-i8RczottNjcqA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en

 

Looks like you could drive a bus along those pavements outside the British Museum.

 

They're beautiful trees them... Have a look 50m down road... Do a 360 spin on Google streetview from here and check the lamp post and tree

 

https://goo.gl/maps/oqchTsX1J752

 

.. Down to 1.5m there... And they get a million people + down there.... No question of no trees... Oh look they are using flexipave... Trees are part of the status of the street.... We could use flexipave as its in ameys contract.. Why don't we? .... Is because we're been ripped off and in 10yrs time all will realise it..

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They're beautiful trees them... Have a look 50m down road... Do a 360 spin on Google streetview from here and check the lamp post and tree

 

https://goo.gl/maps/oqchTsX1J752

 

.. Down to 1.5m there... And they get a million people + down there..

 

Not at all clear where you mean as your link shows a few square yards of tarmac outside the British Museum.

 

If you mean this tree and lamp post

 

https://www.google.com/maps/@51.5189597,-0.1243784,3a,75y,89.73t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sIb6a31-JveF9hIt-GmMG2w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

 

then I think there's easily more than 1.5m between the tree and the wall and the footfall would appear to be considerably lower than outside the museum.

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Not at all clear where you mean as your link shows a few square yards of tarmac outside the British Museum.

 

If you mean this tree and lamp post

 

https://www.google.com/maps/@51.5189597,-0.1243784,3a,75y,89.73t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sIb6a31-JveF9hIt-GmMG2w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

 

then I think there's easily more than 1.5m between the tree and the wall and the footfall would appear to be considerably lower than outside the museum.

 

No not that one but interesting to note...

 

The link I posted takes you 60m down the road... Go past the entrance and then carry on 30 m or so... The link works and add I said do a 360 spin from that point and you'll see my point...

 

 

Add for considerably less footfall 50m from the entrance of the British museum I.. Really do they teleport in??

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No not that one but interesting to note...

 

The link I posted takes you 60m down the road... Go past the entrance and then carry on 30 m or so... The link works and add I said do a 360 spin from that point and you'll see my point...

 

 

 

 

Not at all clear where you mean.

 

The furthest of these two trees is the one outside the BM with the least clearance and it's still more than 1.5m.

 

https://www.google.com/maps/@51.5182221,-0.1262426,3a,75y,270h,69.63t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sma7EVt-VzM6hGcRMyCQ4Iw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

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Not at all clear where you mean.

 

The furthest of these two trees is the one outside the BM with the least clearance and it's still more than 1.5m.

 

https://www.google.com/maps/@51.5182221,-0.1262426,3a,75y,270h,69.63t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sma7EVt-VzM6hGcRMyCQ4Iw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

 

 

Here you go if it helps

 

<<imgur link>>....

 

Less than 50m from entrance... Lamppost and tree area restricted to less than 4ft 6'.....i measured it meself.... But I don't think I'm going to convince you of owt..

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