c00kie   10 #2257 Posted February 11, 2019 (edited) Another stage of the gradual unravelling of Sheffield City Council's web of deceit:https://tinyurl.com/yxazya9h  Edited February 11, 2019 by c00kie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Guest makapaka   #2258 Posted February 11, 2019 5 hours ago, Cyclone said: Meaning that the council weren't at fault. No - the council could have been wrong - it doesn’t mean the police acted on that.  Youre assuming that the police didn’t act independently of the council.  i hope they didn’t. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Robin-H   11 #2259 Posted February 12, 2019 23 hours ago, c00kie said: Another stage of the gradual unravelling of Sheffield City Council's web of deceit:https://tinyurl.com/yxazya9h  I wonder for how many trees this was true of.  Those of us who have been campaigning against the unnecessary removal of trees have been saying for years that is was the case the felling was clearly not a final resort, and trees were being felled unnecessarily.  Good to see the truth finally coming out.  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
woodview   10 #2260 Posted February 12, 2019 33 minutes ago, Robin-H said: I wonder for how many trees this was true of.  Those of us who have been campaigning against the unnecessary removal of trees have been saying for years that is was the case the felling was clearly not a final resort, and trees were being felled unnecessarily.  Good to see the truth finally coming out.  That report is disgusting, clearly coordinated lies coming out of the council. They should be made to stop while independent reviews of any others are processed, and the reports open to the public. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Bob Arctor   11 #2261 Posted February 12, 2019 Councillors and council employees are public servants. Some Sheffield councillors and council officers have interpreted public service as "lying to the public to protect the financial interests of a private company". Anyone complicit in that clearly needs to be barred from office/sacked Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Cyclone   10 #2262 Posted February 13, 2019 On 11/02/2019 at 23:41, makapaka said: No - the council could have been wrong - it doesn’t mean the police acted on that.  Youre assuming that the police didn’t act independently of the council.  i hope they didn’t. A few pages ago you were arguing specifically that the police DID act independently and that the council were not involved (despite all the evidence to the contrary). Which happens to mean that the council aren't to blame (despite all the evidence to the contrary). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Cyclone   10 #2263 Posted February 13, 2019 12 hours ago, Bob Arctor said: Councillors and council employees are public servants. Some Sheffield councillors and council officers have interpreted public service as "lying to the public to protect the financial interests of a private company". Anyone complicit in that clearly needs to be barred from office/sacked Prosecuted even. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Guest makapaka   #2264 Posted February 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Cyclone said: A few pages ago you were arguing specifically that the police DID act independently and that the council were not involved (despite all the evidence to the contrary). Which happens to mean that the council aren't to blame (despite all the evidence to the contrary). Yes that’s still what I’m arguing you either haven’t read or understood my post correctly.  i didn’t say the council weren’t involved - i said I didn’t think the police acted on their direction - and that they acted independently.  Do you believe the police worked at the behest of the council and arrested people on their instruction? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
woodview   10 #2265 Posted February 13, 2019 13 hours ago, Bob Arctor said: Councillors and council employees are public servants. Some Sheffield councillors and council officers have interpreted public service as "lying to the public to protect the financial interests of a private company". Anyone complicit in that clearly needs to be barred from office/sacked 100% Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
alchresearch   213 #2266 Posted February 13, 2019 Worth clicking for the picture of the dog! Sheffield council says sorry for misleading residents over tree felling https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/feb/12/sheffield-apologises-for-misleading-tree-felling-programme Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Cyclone   10 #2267 Posted February 13, 2019 (edited) 37 minutes ago, makapaka said: Yes that’s still what I’m arguing you either haven’t read or understood my post correctly.  i didn’t say the council weren’t involved - i said I didn’t think the police acted on their direction - and that they acted independently.  Do you believe the police worked at the behest of the council and arrested people on their instruction? So you ARE defending the council, despite claiming you weren't, and despite there now having admitted to misleading people.  And yes, the council specifically requested the presence of the police and asked them to make arrests under inappropriate legislation. The police didn't dream that up on their own. Edited February 13, 2019 by Cyclone Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
woodview   10 #2268 Posted February 13, 2019 7 minutes ago, Cyclone said: So you ARE defending the council, despite claiming you weren't, and despite there now having admitted to misleading people.  And yes, the council specifically requested the presence of the police and asked them to make arrests under inappropriate legislation. The police didn't dream that up on their own. I've just started on this thread and I am 100% against the tree felling and think the council are a disgrace and also have little faith in SYP. Also just from scanning the last 2-3 pages, it looks like you've got a vendetta going against that poster, and are ignoring what they are saying. Maybe take a step back and try get what they are saying rather than assuming they are the devil incarnate? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...