The EU and the Irish Border.

[ez8004 10]

anyway, a breakthrough, another concession from the UK

 

 

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-42221742

 

its gonna anger the DUP, also in the next phase its saying Spain could start harranging over Gibralter next

 

Awesome. See all this sovereignty we are getting back?

[melthebell 863]

Awesome. See all this sovereignty we are getting back?

 

yup somebody should start a list

 

£50 billion handed over to the EU

Northern Ireland not actually leaving the EU just pretending to.

 

then we'll have

 

Gibralter handed over to Spain

 

 

then maybe once we start trade talks with the WTO

 

handing the falklands over to Argentina

The US imposing strict trade tariffs on us

[chalga 10]

anyway, a breakthrough, another concession from the UK

 

 

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-42221742

 

its gonna anger the DUP, also in the next phase its saying Spain could start harranging over Gibralter next

 

And the DUP scupper the deal.

 

Plus

 

:Scotland, Wales and London all unite in demanding same EU deal as Northern Ireland

Edited December 4, 2017 by chalga

[melthebell 863]

And the DUP scupper the deal.

 

Plus

 

:Scotland, Wales and London all unite in demanding same EU deal as Northern Ireland

yup, Sconnybotland and Londinian have already started on that score

[Penistone999 10]

anyway, a breakthrough, another concession from the UK

 

 

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-42221742

 

its gonna anger the DUP, also in the next phase its saying Spain could start harranging over Gibralter next

 

You were saying :hihi:

 

The DUP have put the brakes on that concession

[I1L2T3 10]

You were saying :hihi:

 

The DUP have put the brakes on that concession

 

Not good for May is it. She’s beholden to a couple hundred thousand voters in NI and their nutjob leaders

[melthebell 863]

You were saying :hihi:

 

The DUP have put the brakes on that concession

lol what a shame and not a surprise

[Geo-atkinson 10]

If Theresa May has the balls she can get the Ireland deal. The alternative for the DUP is forcing a general election. Then either the labour party will win it and they are more sympathetic to a united Ireland type deal. Or the Tories will win with a majority in which case the DUP can get stuffed. Or there will be a hung parlament again in which the DUP may not hold the balance of power. Either way the DUP can push, for now, but only so far.

[ENG601PM 10]

Watching events unfold yesterday was hysterical.

 

If I thought that Teresa May & Team were an arch negotiator (and the jury is out on that) I'd have said that it was a setup with the DUP to kick the EU in the gonads and restore the balance of power in the negotiations now that things are moving onto the future relationship. Ireland was (in the arch negotiator model) a patsy that overestimated its importance, and the EU was overcome by hubris.

 

The coming weeks will be interesting and I suspect more fruitful for UK PLC, arch negotiators or not.

 

 

(Posted in two threads as it should have been here in the first place)

[chalga 10]

If Theresa May has the balls she can get the Ireland deal. The alternative for the DUP is forcing a general election. Then either the labour party will win it and they are more sympathetic to a united Ireland type deal. Or the Tories will win with a majority in which case the DUP can get stuffed. Or there will be a hung parlament again in which the DUP may not hold the balance of power. Either way the DUP can push, for now, but only so far.

 

I can't understand what problem the DUP have over the terminology that was going to be used in the deal,they want their dairy produce and agri stuff to roll back and forth over the border as it does now,and that's what the agreement was saying,nothing would change,so they are arguing with their own wishes.

[Geo-atkinson 10]

There is little doubt that Gibraltar will end up in a similar situation. The question about Gibraltar is can they get a special deal like Ireland and still remain with UK sovereignty or will the Spanish cause trouble? Watch the Daily Mail go to town over this one when it floats to the top.

To quote German pop princess Nena "This is what we've waited for, this is it boys this is war."

[Lockdoctor 10]

I can't understand what problem the DUP have over the terminology that was going to be used in the deal,they want their dairy produce and agri stuff to roll back and forth over the border as it does now,and that's what the agreement was saying,nothing would change,so they are arguing with their own wishes.

The DUP are a Unionist Party and don't want a United Ireland. The proposed arrangements put forward by the Irish Government makes the prospect of a United Ireland in the future greater.