Lurgh Mor   10 #13 Posted November 17, 2017 its designed to make extra money in tax on the back of the excuse to reduce the problem drinkers. ---------- Post added 17-11-2017 at 16:03 ----------  punishing the poorer people and will have no effect whatsoever  Maybe read this before posting. It is not a tax. http://www.gov.scot/Topics/Health/Services/Alcohol/minimum-pricing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Olive   10 #14 Posted November 17, 2017 punishing the poorer people and will have no effect whatsoever  It is an evidence-based policy though, not just an idea plucked out of thin air. Of course we won't know if it works until it's rolled out properly, but given the massive social and health issues that they're trying to tackle in Scotland, i would say it's worth giving it a go.  Or we continue to flood the market with cheap, horrible, dangerous stuff. One example i heard was a bottle of white cider, costing £4.50, containing 22 units of alcohol. That's just asking for trouble. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
InigoMontoya   10 #15 Posted November 17, 2017 Has it been tried anywhere else in the world?  (i.e. imposing minimum pricing after no levy)  Do we know the outcome? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Mattenmurg   10 #16 Posted November 17, 2017 Has it been tried anywhere else in the world? (i.e. imposing minimum pricing after no levy)  Do we know the outcome?  http://www.ias.org.uk/Alcohol-knowledge-centre/Price/Factsheets/Minimum-unit-pricing.aspx  The above lists the 6 other countries in the world using MUP and some stats on the effects. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
melthebell   862 #17 Posted November 17, 2017 i'm not poor, nor am i an alcoholic. but if i see A) 12 bottles of beer for £12, vs B) 15 bottles of beer for £12, i know which one i will buy...  and if i have 15 bottles of beer, then i'm going to drink 15 bottles of beer  (not in one go, but a week or 2)  multiply my experience, by an adult population of ~60million, and then multiply that by a lifetime of drinking an additional 3 bottles of beer a week, and the effect on the nations health could be huge.  (if i drink those 3 bottles in 1 evening, am i likely to get up early and take the dog out for a long walk? or sit on the sofa till 11 eating bacon sandwiches?)  but theres people out there with MORE money and they dont even have to judge, oh thats that and its got those many, they can still just merrily get blasted Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Padders   2,755 #18 Posted November 17, 2017 Can anyone tell me what the difference it will make to my pint. I drink pretty much your average stuff eg. smiths tetleys carling etc. I pay in the region of £2.80--£3.00 a pint, and I find that's dear enough. (not a town drinker) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
SnailyBoy   10 #19 Posted November 17, 2017 Can anyone tell me what the difference it will make to my pint. I drink pretty much your average stuff eg. smiths tetleys carling etc. I pay in the region of £2.80--£3.00 a pint, and I find that's dear enough. (not a town drinker)  Do you live in Scotland? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
iansheff   83 #20 Posted November 17, 2017 When this was on the news the other lunchtime he held a large bottle of cider up and I am sure he said would be £14+ for one of those bottles. Just done a quick search and see a bottle of Frosty Jack cider had 22.5 units in in 2010, if that's the same now it is going to cost £11.25 for a 3 ltr bottle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Padders   2,755 #21 Posted November 17, 2017 Do you live in Scotland?  No, but it won"t be long before we follow suit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
hauxwell   235 #22 Posted November 17, 2017 Will this tax effect pubs, they are already struggling, or will it be supermarkets only. I agree with what most people are saying it will be the poor who suffer. Nicola Sturgeon, will still be able to buy her champagne. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
El Cid   194 #23 Posted November 17, 2017 I don't. Nothing should be rationed by price because it discriminates against people on low incomes.  Helping the poor to live healthier lives is ok with me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
melthebell   862 #24 Posted November 17, 2017 Helping the poor to live healthier lives is ok with me. i dont want to live healthier thanks, i dont go to the drs much, i dont cause ****, but i enjoy a drink here and there, and far from rolling in cash why should i suffer? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...