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Jared Omara MP ..

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Jared is local to us, and could well be a member of the forum, we dont allow name calling and insults on other threads and they arent acceptable on this one either.

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According to Wikipedia Cerebral Palsy and Autism spectrum disorder.

 

Cerebral Palsy is a physical disability. It's as much a learning disability as being in a wheelchair is

 

And most of the population are on the autistic spectrum, that's why it's called a spectrum. A sizable proportion of them are high functioning - basically almost every university lecturer and elite scientist in the country fall under that diagnosis.

 

Disability doesn't make you a bad person. He's sending out a really offensive message blaming being nasty on disability.

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Cerebral Palsy is a physical disability. It's as much a learning disability as being in a wheelchair is

 

(also) according to Wikipedia

 

Other symptoms may include seizures and problems with thinking or reasoning, either of which occurs in about one third of people with CP.

 

Is it really acceptable to debate the merits of a mans disability and if people consider them severe enough?????

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Please stop reading medical books and wikipedia in order to table an arguement concerning his disability.Unless anyone is medically trained the quotes are just opinion on what has been read.

 

In my opinion he was selected due to being in the right place at the right time regardless of disability and people voted for him on the back of the Labour banner and nothing else.Generally people in a similar position normally play the game when found out about a previous indescression and make the cursory apology.But Jared decided a better way was to keep quiet,stay below the radar then eventually re surface and explain that he is one of lifes victims that is disabled and mis understood but regrets his previous comments due to this.His annoyance was easily seen in his recent interview after giving his opinion about forgiveness and now he deserved to be forgiven.How arrogant is that? He remains as an independent due to his new found incompatibility with Labour and because of this he is still allowed to draw a salary.A product that is purchased only to find that it is not fit for purchase is returned with a full refund.There should now be a refund as he is clearly not fit for purchase and allow someone to undertake the job that he clearly cannot give 100% to.

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Yes. As a Labour MP, he was a failure; and as an Independent he's unlikely to be any more of a success.

This is true irrespective of his disability.

Cf David Blunkett, Jack Ashley. whether or not they were successes, their respective disabilities did not compromise their ability to do the job properly. Mr O'Mara's does.

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Everyone is autistic these days. A child id rude, ill mannered and naughty, won`t hear the word no. He/She has a label attached.

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Please do not use "autism" as a tool in your personal/political attacks.

Neither should it be used

 

Autism is very real and permanent.

 

It is poorly understood and there is a mass of poorly written material which can be easily quoted.

 

Ignorance of, and misuse of the term is both hurtful and damaging in that it dilutes the very real and profound effects that autism has on the individual and family.

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I`ll make myself clearer. Parents these days don`t accept responsibility for their children. They are on the whole ill mannered, rude and just plain nasty. Schools just pander to the naughty ones, in turn making things worse. They attach all sorts of labels to excuse bad behavior. I could go into great detail but not on here.

 

The education system is in crisis. Schools can not fill roles,,, why??????? Again i could tell but can`t go into detail.

 

Please do not use "autism" as a tool in your personal/political attacks.

 

How long have you been waiting to use that sentence.

 

Autism is real, yes, i understand that. Never in question.

 

I would doubt it is still poorly understood, maybe in days gone by, yes.

 

Ignorance of, and misuse of the term is both hurtful and damaging in that it dilutes the very real and profound effects that autism has on the individual and family.

 

You misunderstand my point entirely.

 

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Anyway, back to the topic. Never have i seen someone so obviously over promoted. I expect much better from Sheffield, more fool me.

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What an unbelievably stupid and damaging thing to say.

You have fallen into the trap of thinking that a disability must somehow be visible.

Anybody with learning difficulties or has a friend or relative, or has responsibility for anybody with learning difficulties should actively disregard this statement.

 

Having been diagnosed with lifelong learning difficulties at an early stage, starting school life in a special unit, statemented, special classes throughout school, DLA, DSA etc. our lad recently completed a University degree and starts full time work in August.

 

Thank you everybody at St Marie's, Notre Dame and Sheffield College.

 

 

I have the good fortune to know a young man with "a learning difficulty." He is a lovely guy, his life revolves around been kind and helpful to everyone he meets. But sad to say there is more chance of the moon being made of green cheese than my friend (every one is his friend) ever getting a qualification of any kind. Therefore I conclude that a learning difficulty must cover a range of symtoms, from my friend at the low end to someone like Mr Omara who can get a degree at the top end.

 

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Yes. As a Labour MP, he was a failure; and as an Independent he's unlikely to be any more of a success.

This is true irrespective of his disability.

Cf David Blunkett, Jack Ashley. whether or not they were successes, their respective disabilities did not compromise their ability to do the job properly. Mr O'Mara's does.

 

Are you sure it's his disability that compromises his ability to do the job, rather than his character perhaps?

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Jared O' Mara is an awful rat,

He went on the internet saying this and that.

Rude about women and rude about people that were gay,

He thought in his position of power he could stay.

 

The public found out and were awfully mad,

In his job he'd done very little, which also was bad.

The Labour party did an investigation,

Which got a lot of press, all across the nation.

 

Now Jared got away with a slap on the wrist,

But despite his good fortune, was still rather miffed.

He quit the Labour party with ever such a flurry,

And came up with reasons in too much of a hurry.

 

Jared said he was ill, he said he was working class,

Believing that would give him a free pass.

Alas the public saw through the whole rigmarole,

And when voting time comes, Jared will be on the dole.

 

I agree that Jared acted like a prat.

But I can also say that

although he has been very silly,

At least he didn't put his willy

somewhere that it shouldn't be.

(That's the downfall of a Tory MP).

 

And I can't help but think

There wouldn't have been such a stink

If he'd said sorry, right from the start

And given an apology, straight from the heart.

 

I don't approve of what Jared did

But he said those things when he was a kid.

He needs to show that he has changed

And maybe a reconciliation can be arranged.

 

It seems all you want to do is beat up the lad,

so I'm not at all surprised that he had

gone into hiding and vanished without trace.

And I think it's quite a disgrace

that some want to tear him limb-from-limb

When there's a medical reason that he acts a bit dim.

 

The lad was born with a disabilty

Which makes me think there's a high possibility

He's somewhere along the autistic chart

and from my experience, that can play a part

in behaving in such a way,

which takes me back to my schooldays

when a disabled lad in a year below mine

took an instant dislike to me (he would have been around nine).

Many times he threatened to kick me in

which in the grand scheme of things,

did not bother me at all.

I certainly didn't go and call

some sleazy newshound from the local rag

to go and investigate this young lad

and publish his antics for the world to see.

I was just glad that disabled lad wasn't me.

 

I thought nothing more of the incident after that;

I just got on with my life.

But today I think it's such a shame,

that nobody else is prepared to do the same.

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I agree that Jared acted like a prat.

But I can also say that

although he has been very silly,

At least he didn't put his willy

somewhere that it shouldn't be.

(That's the downfall of a Tory MP).

 

And I can't help but think

There wouldn't have been such a stink

If he'd said sorry, right from the start

And given an apology, straight from the heart.

 

I don't approve of what Jared did

But he said those things when he was a kid.

He needs to show that he has changed

And maybe a reconciliation can be arranged.

 

It seems all you want to do is beat up the lad,

so I'm not at all surprised that he had

gone into hiding and vanished without trace.

And I think it's quite a disgrace

that some want to tear him limb-from-limb

When there's a medical reason that he acts a bit dim.

 

The lad was born with a disabilty

Which makes me think there's a high possibility

He's somewhere along the autistic chart

and from my experience, that can play a part

in behaving in such a way,

which takes me back to my schooldays

when a disabled lad in a year below mine

took an instant dislike to me (he would have been around nine).

Many times he threatened to kick me in

which in the grand scheme of things,

did not bother me at all.

I certainly didn't go and call

some sleazy newshound from the local rag

to go and investigate this young lad

and publish his antics for the world to see.

I was just glad that disabled lad wasn't me.

 

I thought nothing more of the incident after that;

I just got on with my life.

But today I think it's such a shame,

that nobody else is prepared to do the same.

 

Well said. It's time this thread was closed so the lad can try to pick up the pieces of his life and actually do the job he was elected to do. That's without the baying pack acting in every bit as bullying a way as he is accused of acting.

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I agree that Jared acted like a prat.

But I can also say that

although he has been very silly,

At least he didn't put his willy

somewhere that it shouldn't be.

(That's the downfall of a Tory MP).

 

And I can't help but think

There wouldn't have been such a stink

If he'd said sorry, right from the start

And given an apology, straight from the heart.

 

I don't approve of what Jared did

But he said those things when he was a kid.

He needs to show that he has changed

And maybe a reconciliation can be arranged.

 

It seems all you want to do is beat up the lad,

so I'm not at all surprised that he had

gone into hiding and vanished without trace.

And I think it's quite a disgrace

that some want to tear him limb-from-limb

When there's a medical reason that he acts a bit dim.

 

The lad was born with a disabilty

Which makes me think there's a high possibility

He's somewhere along the autistic chart

and from my experience, that can play a part

in behaving in such a way,

which takes me back to my schooldays

when a disabled lad in a year below mine

took an instant dislike to me (he would have been around nine).

Many times he threatened to kick me in

which in the grand scheme of things,

did not bother me at all.

I certainly didn't go and call

some sleazy newshound from the local rag

to go and investigate this young lad

and publish his antics for the world to see.

I was just glad that disabled lad wasn't me.

 

I thought nothing more of the incident after that;

I just got on with my life.

But today I think it's such a shame,

that nobody else is prepared to do the same.

 

Just need to clarify again that to the best of our kniwledge he doesn't have a mental disability! Nor has he claimed to....so I don't think there's a reason he's 'a bit dim'.....other than just being a bit dim!

 

He's played every other card- you can guarantee he would have played that one in his defence if he had it!

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