Jared Omara MP ..

[jake 10]

He's a sitting MP. He hasn't stood down, and unless he does and forces a by-election, or kicks the bucket, there won't be one.

 

Exactly - as if you can just call a helpline and get rid of an MP...

 

It'd be interesting to see any records of the comments of Jared's predecessor-but-one in Hallam - Irvine Patnick. I'd imagine he wasn't very politically correct...

[taxman 12]

Exactly - as if you can just call a helpline and get rid of an MP...

 

It'd be interesting to see any records of the comments of Jared's predecessor-but-one in Hallam - Irvine Patnick. I'd imagine he wasn't very politically correct...

 

Is that the Irvine Patnick who told lies to the media about the victims of the Hillsborough Disaster?

[Badlittlepup 10]

Do you think that the posh 'gentlemans clubs' in London don't have drugs and dubious activities? So it's fine for the MP's with money to spend it on rent boys, coke and expensive hookers as long as they are somewhere posh and not going out in Dempsey's?

 

Can't really win, people complain that their elected representatives are old / out of touch / live in a different world yet when someone young gets in who admits to going on at the weekend you slate him for frequenting a place not fitting of an MP!

 

I'm from London so I'm aware of those clubs. If you mean the actual gentlemans clubs on Pall Mall, no they have very little of that sort of activity. If they do it's very well hidden and certainly not tolerated by management.

 

The equivalent sort of place in London would be somewhere like the Fridge bar in Brixton or various dives in Clapton. And you wouldn't get MPs openly bragging about going out in them either. Not if they had any sense, which O'Mara clearly doesn't.

 

Look, it's not about being 'in touch'. MPs create laws which send people to prison. They say some things are wrong and deserve censure and create the laws which do that. For an MP to take on a job which means they are responsible for creating those laws and the oversight of the organisations which enforce them, then boast about somewhere which is pretty well known for flouting a good few of those laws is hypocritical and stupid.

 

You can't be part of something which sends many people to jail for doing things you are perfectly happy to overlook and tolerate in your personal life.

 

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<cough>Keith Vaz</cough>

 

Yes. Exactly. It's not okay wherever they do it.

 

But with this guy it's much more about his lack of judgement than anything else.

[lobster 54]

Is that the Irvine Patnick who told lies to the media about the victims of the Hillsborough Disaster?

 

Is that the Irvine Patnick who was the world's first Invisible MP

[Ms Macbeth 75]

He has said no worse than what any other 22 year old said. The only difference is that he became an MP when social media was already around 20 years old. It probably never crossed his mind that he'd one day become an MP back in the days when he was 22. So Sarah Harding of Girls Aloud complained. So what? They appeared in lads mags and it certainly helped with their careers. I'm pretty sure most 22 year olds would have dreamed about going out with the girls of Girls Aloud 14 or 15 years ago. It has been part of pop for over 50 years dating back to 1963 or thereabouts. Plenty of 22 year olds would have wanted to go out with the Ronettes, Supremes, Shangri Las or any other attractive girl group or soloist etc back in the 60s or 70s, and the likes of Kim Wilde back in the 1980s, or Nicole Scherzinger or the Saturdays in the 2000s. He was 22 then. What were many other MPs doing when they were 22 year olds? He didn't spend billions of pounds crushing ordinary people a la Thatcher, nor was he seen with a pigs head. He didn't smash up restaurants or burn £50 notes in front of beggars a la Bullingdon Club. Now had he been a goody two shoes, he'd probably have been slaughtered by the press and media like Ed Miliband, who was branded as a geek, and as a weirdo by the Daily Mail - that same Daily Mail which fawned over Hitler and Mussolini.

 

Regardless of whether it's normal behaviour for a 22 year old or not, he wasn't 22 when he signed a disclaimer about past behaviour. For someone of that mindset to accept an equalities role - you couldn't make it up.

 

Most Labour MPs here have previously been local councillors. How can someone who has failed in their attempts to become a councillor get selected as a parliamentary candidate?

[Guest]

Is that the Irvine Patnick who was the world's first Invisible MP

 

What do you mean?

[Halibut 12]

Hardly worth the press coverage he has received .You hear far worse down the boozer .

 

Really? What hole do you drink in?

[pss60 10]

Regardless of whether it's normal behaviour for a 22 year old or not, he wasn't 22 when he signed a disclaimer about past behaviour. For someone of that mindset to accept an equalities role - you couldn't make it up.

 

Most Labour MPs here have previously been local councillors. How can someone who has failed in their attempts to become a councillor get selected as a parliamentary candidate?

He probably never thought anything he said 15 or so years ago would count. It seems that becoming an MP is the only occupation where anything you did as a young man back then counts. MPs have said and done far worse at 22 before they became MPs but nothing was said about them. It would have been no harm done had he kept those thoughts to himself or at least not put them up on social media, where they're there for decades if not until Doomsday. He's been a fool, yes, but no worse, and is what he put down on social media as a 22 year old worse than the double-dealing of this Government, which took Midland Mainline electrification away after promising it for years. That will hit Sheffield and the East Midlands harder than anything that MP wrote down, so it is time to get things into perspective and reserve our scorn for where it should really be directed.

Edited October 28, 2017 by pss60

[Stoatwobbler 10]

I wasn't a goody two shoes no, just a decent human being. Are they really so thin on the ground?

 

In politics they probably are very thin on the ground.

 

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My understanding from a friend who's a Labour Party member is that Momentum do lots of the campaigning regardless of who the candidate is. So in that sense they can take some credit wherever the Labour candidate gets elected, and O'Mara acknowledged that help in the Guardian interview. That's not the same as being selected and put forward by Momentum, is my understanding.

 

If you want to make a Momentum supporter squirm, ask them why they spent all that time campaigning for Jared O'Mara in Hallam when they could have just as easily gone to North East Derbyshire to try and stop Labour losing the seat to Lee Rowley!

[ANGELFIRE1 10]

He has said no worse than what any other 22 year old said. The only difference is that he became an MP when social media was already around 20 years old. It probably never crossed his mind that he'd one day become an MP back in the days when he was 22. So Sarah Harding of Girls Aloud complained. So what? They appeared in lads mags and it certainly helped with their careers. I'm pretty sure most 22 year olds would have dreamed about going out with the girls of Girls Aloud 14 or 15 years ago. It has been part of pop for over 50 years dating back to 1963 or thereabouts. Plenty of 22 year olds would have wanted to go out with the Ronettes, Supremes, Shangri Las or any other attractive girl group or soloist etc back in the 60s or 70s, and the likes of Kim Wilde back in the 1980s, or Nicole Scherzinger or the Saturdays in the 2000s. He was 22 then. What were many other MPs doing when they were 22 year olds? He didn't spend billions of pounds crushing ordinary people a la Thatcher, nor was he seen with a pigs head. He didn't smash up restaurants or burn £50 notes in front of beggars a la Bullingdon Club. Now had he been a goody two shoes, he'd probably have been slaughtered by the press and media like Ed Miliband, who was branded as a geek, and as a weirdo by the Daily Mail - that same Daily Mail which fawned over Hitler and Mussolini.

 

 

It's hard to defend the undefendable.

 

Angel1.

[Jonny5 10]

If a goody two shoes stands in Labour colours, he gets slaughtered as much as if he were Jack the Ripper.

I can reel off loads of Labour Mps that everyone loves regardless of them not being misogynistic foul mouthed bullies.

 

People didn't like Miliband as a leader because he had zero charisma. As an MP he was and remains popular.

[Stoatwobbler 10]

What is Oliver Coppard up to these days?

 

Not sure Coppard would be a popular choice with Momentum types.