Air Pollution in Sheffield - Most polluted streets

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There are different causes in different places, the dirty diesel trains and stop-start traffic around the station are going to be the biggest cause of air pollution there. There must be a good case for diverting traffic away from in front of the station this is the gateway to our city for many visitors and it's hardly a great first impression to be met by 4 lanes of traffic and poor quality air.

The large numbers of taxi drivers sitting outside the station with their engines idling don't help. East Midlands Trains, who run the station and issue permits to the taxis to use the station facilities could address this, but don't appear minded to act.

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The large numbers of taxi drivers sitting outside the station with their engines idling don't help. East Midlands Trains, who run the station and issue permits to the taxis to use the station facilities could address this, but don't appear minded to act.

 

True, but there's little point in those cabs idling outside the station when they could be working elsewhere in the city Uber has shown the way with geolocation on taxis and demand-based pricing. It's time their competitors caught up and acted smarter instead of well worn routines.

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True, but there's little point in those cabs idling outside the station when they could be working elsewhere in the city Uber has shown the way with geolocation on taxis and demand-based pricing. It's time their competitors caught up and acted smarter instead of well worn routines.

 

Oh dear, another UBER fanboy.

 

UBER are artificially cheep, running at a loss to make most of the other taxi firms eventually go out of business. Then UBER will dominate and wack their prices up. You'll see.

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The large numbers of taxi drivers sitting outside the station with their engines idling don't help. East Midlands Trains, who run the station and issue permits to the taxis to use the station facilities could address this, but don't appear minded to act.

 

Poor planning?

 

 

(p.s. not by you btw, just a joke)

 

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Do you think the approach is well designed though, just out of interest?

 

 

(p.s. that's a rhetorical question btw, it's crap and everyone can see it)

 

True, but there's little point in those cabs idling outside the station when they could be working elsewhere in the city Uber has shown the way with geolocation on taxis and demand-based pricing. It's time their competitors caught up and acted smarter instead of well worn routines.

 

Uber don't allow Hackney carriages (as Sheffield define).

 

However, many of the cars that Uber use are 'Hackney carriages' in their own place of registration though. Out of towners with cheaper overheads cause a change in the competition given that Sheffield Hackneys have had to buy large and often very uneconomical, very limited choice and very expensive vehicles.

 

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Since they can't get fares on Uber, and since they pay a lot of money to be able to pick up at the station, and considering most taxi ranks are in unpopular places, or overfull in popular ones... what would you do if you'd paid thousands to pick up there? Sit there, or drive around burning diesel for nothing?

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Poor planning?

 

 

(p.s. not by you btw, just a joke)

 

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Do you think the approach is well designed though, just out of interest?

 

 

(p.s. that's a rhetorical question btw, it's crap and everyone can see it)

It doesn't work too well at the moment.

 

The Council are trying to work with East Midland Trains to improve the situation. The Station actually own part of Cross Turner St adjacent to the station, so it's not something the Council alone can address.

 

They're also looking at whether the vacant development site next to the station can be used short and long term for stacking the waiting taxis.

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Oh dear, another UBER fanboy.

 

UBER are artificially cheep, running at a loss to make most of the other taxi firms eventually go out of business. Then UBER will dominate and wack their prices up. You'll see.

 

I absolutely agree that Uber are drowning the competition by running at a loss, however the features I'm talking about would be worthy of a premium service and their competitors should be copying and improving on them to provide an intelligent flexible service, if they don't then they'll go out of business even if they survive the Uber price purge.

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I absolutely agree that Uber are drowning the competition by running at a loss, however the features I'm talking about would be worthy of a premium service and their competitors should be copying and improving on them to provide an intelligent flexible service, if they don't then they'll go out of business even if they survive the Uber price purge.

 

Off topic. Probably already a thread for discussing uber

 

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One of the worst places for air quality is Broomhill.

 

Many areas of the Sheffield are twice over the legal limit

 

http://www.thestar.co.uk/news/revealed-air-pollution-hot-spots-in-sheffield-where-deadly-fumes-are-more-than-twice-legal-limit-1-8533487

 

Thanks for posting this. Very interesting.

 

A lot of those places seem to where IMO council road planning has created artificial bottlenecks for traffic. There are many of these all through the city and a lot of them are coming up on that list. We all know them: all the places where it is an absolute pain in the butt to drive through at most times of the day.

 

I think the monitoring stations should be set back from the main roads for a time, say two streets away. Start with say Abbeydale. Quite possibly a very bad picture of pollution will emerge, especially in the valley bottoms.

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Thanks for posting this. Very interesting.

 

Have you ever walked down Fulwood road starting from the Broomhill end?

 

The smell of exhaust fumes along Fulwood road is awful because the Victorian walls on either side of the road and the tree canopies creates a corridor effect which traps in the exhaust fumes.

 

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​As for the rest of you talking about ride-sharing platforms, this is a well known theoretical model of reducing congestion, pollution, and the demand for parking. In jurisdictions where the ride-sharing platforms operate unmolested, the [environmental results] are outstanding. Again this is the private sector achieving this without any public investment.

 

Unfortunately we don't see these results replicated here in Blighty, and its not because the algorithm is any different, but rather our antiquated private hire legislation (PHV) makes ride-sharing illegal here in the UK so you don't get the same socio-economic or environmental benefits like Uber does stateside. Most Sheffielders will never experience Uber like it was originally intended.

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Indeed. I think the usual figures are something like:

 

40% home boilers

40% power stations

11% vehicles

9% industrial/other

 

Wood burners are banned in Sheffield for everything but treated fuel.

 

Do you have a link for those figures? They are considerably different from anything I can find.

 

I would also suggest that localised high levels of pollution near busy roads are clearly as a result of pollution from transport, not a locally high concentration of house boilers, so reducing emissions from transport makes a huge difference to localised levels.